New RIPE Labs Article - Building a stable future for the RIPE NCC

Dear colleagues, I’d like to draw your attention to an article that was just published on RIPE Labs, about building a stable future for the RIPE NCC. As it touches on some very foundational aspects all across the various working groups and NCC membership, I thought it important to share, and I would very much like to ask everyone for their input and ideas. In order to not spread the discussion too much across the various mailing lists, I suggest that we use the general RIPE list (which I’ve put into the reply-to field of this email. I’m currently in the process of organising a BOF during RIPE 88 on this topic as well and am looking forward to a constructive discussion! Kind regards, Remco van Mook RIPE NCC Executive Board

Dear colleagues, apologies for the second email but it appears I forgot to actually add a link to the article: https://labs.ripe.net/author/remco-van-mook/building-a-stable-future-for-the-ripe-ncc/ Building a Stable Future for the RIPE NCC labs.ripe.net Kind regards Remco van Mook RIPE NCC Executive Board
On 18 Apr 2024, at 15:17, Remco van Mook <remco.vanmook@gmail.com> wrote:
Dear colleagues,
I’d like to draw your attention to an article that was just published on RIPE Labs, about building a stable future for the RIPE NCC.
As it touches on some very foundational aspects all across the various working groups and NCC membership, I thought it important to share, and I would very much like to ask everyone for their input and ideas.
In order to not spread the discussion too much across the various mailing lists, I suggest that we use the general RIPE list (which I’ve put into the reply-to field of this email.
I’m currently in the process of organising a BOF during RIPE 88 on this topic as well and am looking forward to a constructive discussion!
Kind regards,
Remco van Mook RIPE NCC Executive Board

On 18/04/2024 16:17, Remco van Mook wrote: Dear Remco and others, One fear that I have that can threaten a stable RIPE NCC is the hostile takeover of the RIPE NCC. With the average annual cost of a LIR being about 2KEuro, what is to stop some malicious actor with 5MEuro in his/her pocket to creating 2500 valid new paying members and hijacking the vote for the board and the vote for cost sharing and in regards to new allocations? I think the time has come for RIPE NCC to create "golden shares": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_share assigned to around 20-30 well known organizations/people that have always had the best interest of RIPE on their minds - which can outvote any hostile takeover. Regards, Hank
Dear colleagues,
I’d like to draw your attention to an article that was just published on RIPE Labs, about building a stable future for the RIPE NCC.
As it touches on some very foundational aspects all across the various working groups and NCC membership, I thought it important to share, and I would very much like to ask everyone for their input and ideas.
In order to not spread the discussion too much across the various mailing lists, I suggest that we use the general RIPE list (which I’ve put into the reply-to field of this email.
I’m currently in the process of organising a BOF during RIPE 88 on this topic as well and am looking forward to a constructive discussion!
Kind regards,
Remco van Mook RIPE NCC Executive Board
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Hank, first of all, I am sure the NCC board do remember about the membership amount enough to get a qualified majority. Second, what can the qualified majority do? Elect two or three (once in 3 years) board members? Put in issue two or three members' election? Anyway, thank you for taking this issue in mind. -- Best, Sergey
On 19. 4. 2024, at 1:52, Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il> wrote:
On 18/04/2024 16:17, Remco van Mook wrote:
Dear Remco and others,
One fear that I have that can threaten a stable RIPE NCC is the hostile takeover of the RIPE NCC. With the average annual cost of a LIR being about 2KEuro, what is to stop some malicious actor with 5MEuro in his/her pocket to creating 2500 valid new paying members and hijacking the vote for the board and the vote for cost sharing and in regards to new allocations?
I think the time has come for RIPE NCC to create "golden shares": https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Golden_share assigned to around 20-30 well known organizations/people that have always had the best interest of RIPE on their minds - which can outvote any hostile takeover.
Regards, Hank
Dear colleagues, I’d like to draw your attention to an article that was just published on RIPE Labs, about building a stable future for the RIPE NCC. As it touches on some very foundational aspects all across the various working groups and NCC membership, I thought it important to share, and I would very much like to ask everyone for their input and ideas. In order to not spread the discussion too much across the various mailing lists, I suggest that we use the general RIPE list (which I’ve put into the reply-to field of this email. I’m currently in the process of organising a BOF during RIPE 88 on this topic as well and am looking forward to a constructive discussion! Kind regards, Remco van Mook RIPE NCC Executive Board _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/hank%40interall.co.il
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Hank Nussbacher
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Remco van Mook
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Sergey Myasoedov