Re: [ncc-announce] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2010
Any problem with this message ? I have received no reaction... Best regards. Hello, Thank you for this announcement, but i would need more informations to analyse and build my ideas : Axel Pawlik wrote:
discussions that took place at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2009 regarding the 2010 Charging Scheme.
Please could anyone tell me where i can find a description of these discussions ? I have only found the presentation made at : http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2009/presentations/charging-scheme-2... but no description of discussions around this presentation.
The proposed Draft Charging Scheme 2010 is now available to view at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/draft-charging-scheme-2010.html
This Draft is showing us the "Percentage of Total Members per Billing Category" table, but to understand the ressource management and "the workload involved in providing the services", i would need to see a table showing us the number of ressources (AS, /19V4,...,/32V6) and TotalScoring per Billing categories. Would anybody from RIPE able to summarize and show such a table on the list ?
Membership discussion of the Draft Charging Scheme 2010 proposal can take place at <members-discuss@ripe.net>.
My first try on this list, please apologize if any mistake. Thanks a lot, Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009@is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________|
Hi Bernard,
Any problem with this message ? I have received no reaction...
This mail was well delivered to members. I am just unable to provide you an answer to your question, so are surely many others. .... or the pleb is incurious and unwilling to be bothered by patrician discussions :D
Would anybody from RIPE able to summarize and show such a table on the list ?
I am not sure the information is even available atm, but I am not the right person to ask anyway. Thomas
Hi Bernard,
discussions that took place at the RIPE NCC General Meeting in May 2009 regarding the 2010 Charging Scheme.
Please could anyone tell me where i can find a description of these discussions ? I have only found the presentation made at : http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2009/presentations/charging-scheme-2...
but no description of discussions around this presentation.
The proposed Draft Charging Scheme 2010 is now available to view at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/draft-charging-scheme-2010.html
This Draft is showing us the "Percentage of Total Members per Billing Category" table, but to understand the ressource management and "the workload involved in providing the services", i would need to see a table showing us the number of ressources (AS, /19V4,...,/32V6) and TotalScoring per Billing categories.
Would anybody from RIPE able to summarize and show such a table on the list ? The table you can find the table of the total billing scores for 2009 in
The minutes of the General Meeting have only just become available you can see them at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2009/minutes.html The discussion that took place on this mailing list you can find on: http://www.ripe.net/maillists/ncc-archives/members-discuss/2009/index.html#0... the billing procedure see: http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/procedure-lir.html <snip> The billing scores for members are determined after the RIPE NCC General Meeting in October, (based on data of 30 September). The billing categories for 2009 are: LIR Billing Category, Maximum Score EXTRA SMALL, 27 SMALL, 150 MEDIUM, 1,233 LARGE, 8,047 EXTRA LARGE, 282,403 <snip> Also you can find a more detailed explanation about the billing score calculation at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/calculation.html Kind regards, Jochem de Ruig RIPE NCC
Hi Jochem, Jochem de Ruig wrote:
Please could anyone tell me where i can find a description of these discussions ? I have only found the presentation made at : http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2009/presentations/charging-scheme-2... but no description of discussions around this presentation.
The minutes of the General Meeting have only just become available you can see them at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/gm-may2009/minutes.html
The discussion that took place on this mailing list you can find on: http://www.ripe.net/maillists/ncc-archives/members-discuss/2009/index.html#0...
Thanks a lot : it seems that discussions were mainly on the PI new process, in both GM and discussion list.
The proposed Draft Charging Scheme 2010 is now available to view at: http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/draft-charging-scheme-2010.html
This Draft is showing us the "Percentage of Total Members per Billing Category" table, but to understand the ressource management and "the workload involved in providing the services", i would need to see a table showing us the number of ressources (AS, /19V4,...,/32V6) and TotalScoring per Billing categories.
Would anybody from RIPE able to summarize and show such a table on the list ?
The table you can find the table of the total billing scores for 2009 in the billing procedure see: http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/procedure-lir.html
I understand the calculations (now :-) and know the maximum score for each category, but i would need the SUM of the scores of all members in each category : this will give us a view on how ressources are used by each category. As far as i know, this is not published to members until now, may you please make this important information available to members ? Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009@is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________|
Hi,
This Draft is showing us the "Percentage of Total Members per Billing Category" table, but to understand the ressource management and "the workload involved in providing the services", i would need to see a table showing us the number of ressources (AS, /19V4,...,/32V6) and TotalScoring per Billing categories.
Would anybody from RIPE able to summarize and show such a table on the list ?
The table you can find the table of the total billing scores for 2009 in the billing procedure see: http://www.ripe.net/membership/billing/procedure-lir.html
I understand the calculations (now :-) and know the maximum score for each category, but i would need the SUM of the scores of all members in each category : this will give us a view on how ressources are used by each category.
As far as i know, this is not published to members until now, may you please make this important information available to members ?
Correct we have never published this but it is possible to publish the total sum per category: Below the total score per billing category. Billing category, Total score Extra Small, 101,836 Small, 235,263 Medium, 500,140 Large, 715,794 Extra Large, 1,661,418 Note that these scores are based on different Internet Number Resources over time so this will not give you accurate information on the specific resources used per category. Kind regards, Jochem de Ruig RIPE NCC
Best regards,
Jochem de Ruig wrote:
This Draft is showing us the "Percentage of Total Members per Billing Category" table, but to understand the ressource management and "the workload involved in providing the services", i would need to see a table showing us the number of ressources (AS, /19V4,...,/32V6) and TotalScoring per Billing categories. ... Correct we have never published this but it is possible to publish the total sum per category:
Below the total score per billing category. Billing category, Total score Extra Small, 101,836 Small, 235,263 Medium, 500,140 Large, 715,794 Extra Large, 1,661,418
Thank you very much, it is very interesting. Somebody told me before it was confidential, but i was not understanding why : it appears it is not confidential.
Note that these scores are based on different Internet Number Resources over time so this will not give you accurate information on the specific resources used per category.
Yes, the billing scheme use a table showing how much each ressource is worth points. Please would you also give us the mumbers of each ressources (N°of : AS, /19V4, /20V4, /21V4, /22V4, /30V6, /31V6, /32V6, /33V6) used in each billing category ? Are they any other ressources used by members or users of RIPE/RIPE NCC ? Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009@is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________|
Hi, Just to clarify towards the mailing list
Below the total score per billing category. Billing category, Total score Extra Small, 101,836 Small, 235,263 Medium, 500,140 Large, 715,794 Extra Large, 1,661,418
Thank you very much, it is very interesting. Somebody told me before it was confidential, but i was not understanding why : it appears it is not confidential.
No the total sum per billing category is not confidential. The individual score of registries is treated as confidential information.
Note that these scores are based on different Internet Number Resources over time so this will not give you accurate information on the specific resources used per category.
Yes, the billing scheme use a table showing how much each ressource is worth points. Please would you also give us the mumbers of each ressources (N°of : AS, /19V4, /20V4, /21V4, /22V4, /30V6, /31V6, /32V6, /33V6) used in each billing category ?
You can find this table in the Charging Scheme, in the appendix I
Are they any other ressources used by members or users of RIPE/RIPE NCC ? Also this you can find this table in the Charging Scheme, in the appendix I
Kind regards, Jochem de Ruig RIPE NCC
Best regards,
Jochem de Ruig wrote:
No the total sum per billing category is not confidential. The individual score of registries is treated as confidential information.
Thanks a lot ! I understand this may be not open to general public and i don't need it now. Just to say that the info is in the public database, it is just long to compute, so this is not really confidential. Concerning RIPE members, i don't see any definition about ressources that would be confidential, for instance in the Articles of Association (http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/articles-association.html) Am i wrong ?
Yes, the billing scheme use a table showing how much each ressource is worth points. Please would you also give us the mumbers of each ressources (N°of : AS, /19V4, /20V4, /21V4, /22V4, /30V6, /31V6, /32V6, /33V6) used in each billing category ?
You can find this table in the Charging Scheme, in the appendix I
Sorry, i may be unclear, i look for a table like this : Category ExtraSmall Small Medium Large eXtraLarge N° of AS N° of /19V4 N° of /20V4 N° of /21V4 N° of /22V4 N° of /30V6 N° of /31V6 N° of /32V6 N° of /33V6 But i couldn't find any in : http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/charging2009.html or in : http://ripe.net/ripe/draft-documents/gm-may2009/annualreport2008.pdf or on the website.
Are they any other ressources used by members or users of RIPE/RIPE NCC ?
Also this you can find this table in the Charging Scheme, in the appendix I
Sorry, i didn't find it. I was talking about other size, for instance another member said on this list that there are some /14 somewhere. Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009@is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________|
Dear Bernard,
worth points. Please would you also give us the mumbers of each ressources (N°of : AS, /19V4, /20V4, /21V4, /22V4, /30V6, /31V6, /32V6, /33V6) used in each billing category ?
You can find this table in the Charging Scheme, in the appendix I Yes, the billing scheme use a table showing how much each ressource is
Sorry, i may be unclear, i look for a table like this :
Category ExtraSmall Small Medium Large eXtraLarge N° of AS N° of /19V4 N° of /20V4 N° of /21V4 N° of /22V4 N° of /30V6 N° of /31V6 N° of /32V6 N° of /33V6
I do not have a table like this available. The Charging Scheme is an automated process and has as output mainly a score per registry. This will require quite some manual work from our side. When this is very relevant to discuss the Charging Scheme then this will be possible in due time. May be you can find the answer to your question from the readily information at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-latest This shows all the delegated resources from the RIPE NCC to its members. Kind regards, Jochem de Ruig
Dear Jochem, Jochem de Ruig wrote:
Sorry, i may be unclear, i look for a table like this :
Category ExtraSmall Small Medium Large eXtraLarge N° of AS N° of /19V4 N° of /20V4 N° of /21V4 N° of /22V4 N° of /30V6 N° of /31V6 N° of /32V6 N° of /33V6
I do not have a table like this available. The Charging Scheme is an automated process and has as output mainly a score per registry. This will require quite some manual work from our side. When this is very relevant to discuss the Charging Scheme then this will be possible in due time.
I think this is very relevant to understand the current billing scheme that is quite complicated from my beginner point of view : What i understand is that there is a RessourceScore and a TimedScore : - RessourceScore is based on an arbitrary value corresponding to each ressource allocated or assigned to a member ; - TimedScore is a value computed from each RessourceScore by taking into account the age of the ressource allocation or assignation. Then, there is another function that make a classification of the members in 5 classes, that i imagine are carefully chosen by factors i don't know currently. But i don't forget that the basic goal of RIPE is to manage some scarce resources that are IP adresses and ASNumbers. So as i am told that this classification of members in 5 categories is important, i would like to know how the ressources are used by these 5 categories. I can also understand that categories are an artificial concept that is not important at all, and that would be a good explanation why there is currently no table showing use of ressources by categories. But then i would ask myself why using categories in billing scheme if they are not useful anywhere else ?
May be you can find the answer to your question from the readily information at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-latest This shows all the delegated resources from the RIPE NCC to its members.
Thanks a lot for this link. This is interesting but miss the relationship side from each ressource to the category. Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009@is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________|
Dear Jochem, Hello everybody, As no more messages on the list, I can imagine holidays are now there :-) If i may summarize my last email : - Why are we using "billing categories" ? It seems there are not useful to understand either the use of RIPE ressources or the quantities of services delivered to members. I have added some more questions regarding your last link :
ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-latest This shows all the delegated resources from the RIPE NCC to its members.
If there is somewhere a FAQ regarding this file, please accept my apologises for these questions, i would read it first, but i didn't find any : - Some dates (5th column) are set to 0 : what does it means ? - A lot of ressources are assigned or allocated before 1993 and thus are not used for computing current TimedScore : why ? - Would it be possible to ask RIPE NCC to add a column with the billing category, so anybody may compute the statistics ? Thanks a lot, Best regards, Bernard Dugas Bernard Dugas wrote:
Dear Jochem,
Jochem de Ruig wrote:
Sorry, i may be unclear, i look for a table like this :
Category ExtraSmall Small Medium Large eXtraLarge N° of AS N° of /19V4 N° of /20V4 N° of /21V4 N° of /22V4 N° of /30V6 N° of /31V6 N° of /32V6 N° of /33V6
I do not have a table like this available. The Charging Scheme is an automated process and has as output mainly a score per registry. This will require quite some manual work from our side. When this is very relevant to discuss the Charging Scheme then this will be possible in due time.
I think this is very relevant to understand the current billing scheme that is quite complicated from my beginner point of view :
What i understand is that there is a RessourceScore and a TimedScore : - RessourceScore is based on an arbitrary value corresponding to each ressource allocated or assigned to a member ; - TimedScore is a value computed from each RessourceScore by taking into account the age of the ressource allocation or assignation.
Then, there is another function that make a classification of the members in 5 classes, that i imagine are carefully chosen by factors i don't know currently.
But i don't forget that the basic goal of RIPE is to manage some scarce resources that are IP adresses and ASNumbers.
So as i am told that this classification of members in 5 categories is important, i would like to know how the ressources are used by these 5 categories.
I can also understand that categories are an artificial concept that is not important at all, and that would be a good explanation why there is currently no table showing use of ressources by categories.
But then i would ask myself why using categories in billing scheme if they are not useful anywhere else ?
May be you can find the answer to your question from the readily information at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-latest This shows all the delegated resources from the RIPE NCC to its members.
Thanks a lot for this link.
This is interesting but miss the relationship side from each ressource to the category.
Best regards,
-- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009@is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________|
Dear Bernard, To address you comments and questions I will approach you off line, this will be more effective and interactive and to discuss the Charging Scheme it is not necessary to address these questions on this mailing list. Kind regards, Jochem RIPE NCC Bernard Dugas wrote:
Dear Jochem, Hello everybody,
As no more messages on the list, I can imagine holidays are now there :-)
If i may summarize my last email :
- Why are we using "billing categories" ?
It seems there are not useful to understand either the use of RIPE ressources or the quantities of services delivered to members.
I have added some more questions regarding your last link :
ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-latest This shows all the delegated resources from the RIPE NCC to its members.
If there is somewhere a FAQ regarding this file, please accept my apologises for these questions, i would read it first, but i didn't find any :
- Some dates (5th column) are set to 0 : what does it means ?
- A lot of ressources are assigned or allocated before 1993 and thus are not used for computing current TimedScore : why ?
- Would it be possible to ask RIPE NCC to add a column with the billing category, so anybody may compute the statistics ?
Thanks a lot, Best regards, Bernard Dugas
Bernard Dugas wrote:
Dear Jochem,
Jochem de Ruig wrote:
Sorry, i may be unclear, i look for a table like this :
Category ExtraSmall Small Medium Large eXtraLarge N° of AS N° of /19V4 N° of /20V4 N° of /21V4 N° of /22V4 N° of /30V6 N° of /31V6 N° of /32V6 N° of /33V6
I do not have a table like this available. The Charging Scheme is an automated process and has as output mainly a score per registry. This will require quite some manual work from our side. When this is very relevant to discuss the Charging Scheme then this will be possible in due time.
I think this is very relevant to understand the current billing scheme that is quite complicated from my beginner point of view :
What i understand is that there is a RessourceScore and a TimedScore : - RessourceScore is based on an arbitrary value corresponding to each ressource allocated or assigned to a member ; - TimedScore is a value computed from each RessourceScore by taking into account the age of the ressource allocation or assignation.
Then, there is another function that make a classification of the members in 5 classes, that i imagine are carefully chosen by factors i don't know currently.
But i don't forget that the basic goal of RIPE is to manage some scarce resources that are IP adresses and ASNumbers.
So as i am told that this classification of members in 5 categories is important, i would like to know how the ressources are used by these 5 categories.
I can also understand that categories are an artificial concept that is not important at all, and that would be a good explanation why there is currently no table showing use of ressources by categories.
But then i would ask myself why using categories in billing scheme if they are not useful anywhere else ?
May be you can find the answer to your question from the readily information at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-latest This shows all the delegated resources from the RIPE NCC to its members.
Thanks a lot for this link.
This is interesting but miss the relationship side from each ressource to the category.
Best regards,
Dear Jochem, Jochem de Ruig wrote:
Dear Bernard,
To address you comments and questions I will approach you off line, this will be more effective and interactive and to discuss the Charging Scheme it is not necessary to address these questions on this mailing list.
Concerning the questions on the file, i would gladly accept your help in private email. But answers will help me to provide an interesting analysis to all members. Concerning the question on why using billing categories, i think that this is the whole point of the charging scheme : why having billing categories in 1 case and not in the other ? What is the point of these categories ? I am sure that all members will be interested to know specially new and small members... Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009@is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________|
After you're done please be kind and post your conclusions here? Thanks, Ziv -----Original Message----- From: members-discuss-admin@ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Bernard Dugas Sent: Wednesday, August 05, 2009 6:35 PM To: Jochem de Ruig Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Re: [ncc-announce] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2010 Dear Jochem, Jochem de Ruig wrote:
Dear Bernard,
To address you comments and questions I will approach you off line, this will be more effective and interactive and to discuss the Charging Scheme it is not necessary to address these questions on this mailing list.
Concerning the questions on the file, i would gladly accept your help in private email. But answers will help me to provide an interesting analysis to all members. Concerning the question on why using billing categories, i think that this is the whole point of the charging scheme : why having billing categories in 1 case and not in the other ? What is the point of these categories ? I am sure that all members will be interested to know specially new and small members... Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009@is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________| ---- If you don't want to receive mails from the RIPE NCC Members Discuss list, please log in to your LIR Portal account at: http://lirportal.ripe.net/ First click on General and then click on Edit. At the bottom of the Page you can add or remove addresses. ************************************************************************************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ************************************************************************************ __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4310 (20090805) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com __________ Information from ESET NOD32 Antivirus, version of virus signature database 4310 (20090805) __________ The message was checked by ESET NOD32 Antivirus. http://www.eset.com ************************************************************************************ This footnote confirms that this email message has been scanned by PineApp Mail-SeCure for the presence of malicious code, vandals & computer viruses. ************************************************************************************
Hi Ziv, After you're done please be kind and post your conclusions here? Thanks, Ziv Yes sure, this is my goal and intent :-) Best regards, -- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009@is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________|
Still working on this allocation summary file :
ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-latest This shows all the delegated resources from the RIPE NCC to its members.
- I assume that for IP ranges, assigned means PI : is it right or wrong ? - Some IPV4 assigned range have an IP address number (column I) that is not a power of 2, as it should be (like 193.39.32.0 which is described with 8704 address, that should be either 8192 for /19 or 16384 for /20). Why ? If anybody has some answers... Thanks a lot, Best regards, Bernard Dugas Bernard Dugas wrote:
Dear Jochem,
Jochem de Ruig wrote:
Sorry, i may be unclear, i look for a table like this :
Category ExtraSmall Small Medium Large eXtraLarge N° of AS N° of /19V4 N° of /20V4 N° of /21V4 N° of /22V4 N° of /30V6 N° of /31V6 N° of /32V6 N° of /33V6
I do not have a table like this available. The Charging Scheme is an automated process and has as output mainly a score per registry. This will require quite some manual work from our side. When this is very relevant to discuss the Charging Scheme then this will be possible in due time.
I think this is very relevant to understand the current billing scheme that is quite complicated from my beginner point of view :
What i understand is that there is a RessourceScore and a TimedScore : - RessourceScore is based on an arbitrary value corresponding to each ressource allocated or assigned to a member ; - TimedScore is a value computed from each RessourceScore by taking into account the age of the ressource allocation or assignation.
Then, there is another function that make a classification of the members in 5 classes, that i imagine are carefully chosen by factors i don't know currently.
But i don't forget that the basic goal of RIPE is to manage some scarce resources that are IP adresses and ASNumbers.
So as i am told that this classification of members in 5 categories is important, i would like to know how the ressources are used by these 5 categories.
I can also understand that categories are an artificial concept that is not important at all, and that would be a good explanation why there is currently no table showing use of ressources by categories.
But then i would ask myself why using categories in billing scheme if they are not useful anywhere else ?
May be you can find the answer to your question from the readily information at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-latest This shows all the delegated resources from the RIPE NCC to its members.
Thanks a lot for this link.
This is interesting but miss the relationship side from each ressource to the category.
Best regards,
-- __Bernard DUGAS ______________________________________________________ | IS Production s.a. Innovative Solutions | | Technoparc Pays de Gex bernard.dugas.2009@is-production.com | | 01633 ST GENIS POUILLY CEDEX - FRANCE - Mob.: +33 615 333 770 | | PLEASE NOTE NEW EMAIL ! ATTENTION NOUVEL EMAIL ! | |______________________________________________________________________|
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Ziv Leyes