Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] Board Resolution to Suspend Creation of Multiple LIR Accounts

There's no reason I can imagine beside exploitation of the rules to have more than one LIR in one organization. So what could be a valid reason to postpone this decision for 2 weeks? Kind regards Christoph Neukirch From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Aleksey Bulgakov Sent: Thursday, November 19, 2015 2:45 PM To: members-discuss@ripe.net; Sascha Luck [ml] Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] Board Resolution to Suspend Creation of Multiple LIR Accounts I think it is reasonable to hold this decision for 2 weeks. Many companies planned their work and they cannot make any changes in their work so fast. There were not any notifications. -- Kind regards, Aleksey Bulgakov FastTelecom, CEO 7 926 6908729 14:58, 19 ноября 2015 г., "Sascha Luck [ml]" <ripe-md@c4inet.net<mailto:ripe-md@c4inet.net>>: On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 01:19:41PM +0200, Hank Nussbacher wrote: Took 7 years: https://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/address-policy-wg/2008-December/0039... Now lets see how they solve the problem. That problem was solved in 2012 via a change in AoA. This is a different discussion. rgds, Sascha Luck ---- If you don't want to receive emails from the RIPE NCC members-discuss mailing list, please log in to your LIR Portal account and go to the general page: https://lirportal.ripe.net/general/ Click on "Edit my LIR details", under "Subscribed Mailing Lists". From here, you can add or remove addresses.

On Thu, Nov 19, 2015 at 01:53:39PM +0000, Christoph Neukirch wrote:
There's no reason I can imagine beside exploitation of the rules to have more than one LIR in one organization.
There are many reasons I don't even have to imagine. - large companies with multiple organisational units which are not separate legal entities, yet run their own LIRs. - A company spinning off a business unit and wanting to establish a LIR prior to making it a separate entity. - A LIR buying another and running 2 LIRs in parallel at least until they finished their re-organisation. This scenario may not be affected but I'd like to have some clarity about that.
So what could be a valid reason to postpone this decision for 2 weeks?
Generally it is a good idea to sit down and think some before making knee-jerk decisions that regulate into the business affairs of members. Especially for a monopoly provider. rgds, Sascha Luck
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