Hi Toma: "The requestors didn't know about these nuances of the Mauritian legislation." Hans have confirm the request was reviewed and approved by 5 RIR's lawyers, in a common sense, I would expect him to know the nuance before signing such letter on behalf of RIPE. And obviously AFRINIC knows the nuance, can you confirm the above statement you refer RIPE NCC did not know? where is your knowledge come from? And someone from RIPE NCC or Hans himself please confirm this is information was told to the community in private during RIPE meeting, because I did not see any official statement about it. I did not declare anything, I simply state the fact based on public available information. Lu Heng Chief Executive Officer   LARUS Limited Email  H.Lu@LARUS.netmailto:a.yan@outsideheaven.com Office tel:+852+29888918  Address A3, 11/F, TML Tower, Tsuen Wan, N.T, Hong Kong SAR Website: LARUS.net This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. ---- On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 17:41:14 +0800 Töma Gavrichenkov <ximaera@gmail.com> wrote --- Peace, Inline, On Wed, Oct 26, 2022 at 2:34 PM Lu Heng <mailto:h.lu@larus.net> wrote:

The NRO send a letter to mauritus goverment request to be specialized agency of United nation

Your statement does not make sense. One cannot request a UN agency status from the Mauritius government, because the Mauritius government cannot grant such a status. Only the UN can. On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 8:49 AM Lu Heng <mailto:h.lu@larus.net> wrote:

The letter [to the Mauritius government] was published on 12th July [..] In the letter, NRO request to make RIR "international organisation" to achieve "better outcome".

on September 8th, the Mauritius government rejected a request from AFRINIC

According to the "international organisations and conferences (privileges and immunities) act" (link below), International organization means "specialized agency of the United Nations", and ITU is a "specialized agency of the United Nations".

Aha, so it just seems like a malformed request. The requestors didn't know about these nuances of the Mauritian legislation. Sad, but understandable. I believe it was even discussed before, elsewhere. Not quite what you declared it to be, though. -- Töma

Hi Tome: You are confusing the issue here. My statement are simply reflect the factual event have happened. NRO joined send a letter to Mauritius government to request them make an RIR specialised agency of United nation under a law of Mauritius. This is undisputed fact with evidential document have been shared here multiple times. The logic you going here, is simply "because what NRO did something does not make common sense, so the community can not discuss it here" On the contrary, in my view, this is exactly why the community need to discuss here because what they did something make no sense! That called community scrutiny! The questions you raised in additional to the key ones I have asked. Does Mauritius government have such mandate to give an local company UN status? Why NRO believe Mauritius government have such mandate to do so? Why NRO believe such letter will achieve their intent results in which is give RIR official immunity for in their view, a better outcome? All those questions are for NRO or Hans Peter, who signed the letter,  to answer, and he have been extremely evasive to the any of those question, his follow up email with diplomatic double speaking put politician in shame. so Hans, can you please tell the community why you believe the Mauritian government can make a local company UN agency? Lu Heng Chief Executive Officer   LARUS Limited Email  H.Lu@LARUS.netmailto:a.yan@outsideheaven.com Office tel:+852+29888918  Address A3, 11/F, TML Tower, Tsuen Wan, N.T, Hong Kong SAR Website: LARUS.net This email and any files transmitted with it are confidential and intended solely for the use of the individual or entity to whom they are addressed. If you have received this email in error please notify the system manager. This message contains confidential information and is intended only for the individual named. If you are not the named addressee you should not disseminate, distribute or copy this e-mail. Please notify the sender immediately by e-mail if you have received this e-mail by mistake and delete this e-mail from your system. If you are not the intended recipient you are notified that disclosing, copying, distributing or taking any action in reliance on the contents of this information is strictly prohibited. ---- On Fri, 28 Oct 2022 19:58:47 +0800 Töma Gavrichenkov<ximaera@gmail.com> wrote ---- Peace, On Fri, Oct 28, 2022 at 12:23 PM Lu Heng <mailto:h.lu@larus.net> wrote:

Hi Toma:

"The requestors didn't know about these nuances of the Mauritian legislation."

Hans have confirm the request was reviewed [..skipping the rest - TG..]

All of this is entirely irrelevant to the simple fact that the RIRs (as you stated) can not request an UN "specialized agency" status from the Mauritian government, the Serbian government, the barista at Metropol, me, or any other unrelated party. The official UN status could only be granted by the UN, and therefore could only be requested from the UN office. There were no such requests I'm aware of to the UN office from any of the RIRs. You're welcome to present a proof of such a request, with strictly *the UN office* being the addressee, should you have one. Unless you have it (which is unlikely), the topic seems closed to me because your original claim is addressed. With whatever unrelated complaints you have about the operations of the NCC legislation office, please spawn a separate thread and not change subjects in an e-mail conversation. This is pretty much e-mail etiquette respected and followed for 30+ years. -- Töma