[GM] Consultation on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024
Hi, Regarding the two proposed charging models for 2024, I honestly think that the pricing is a bit on the steep side. Model 1 certainly seems to have a sharp increase. The 50 EUR 'per ASN' charge I imagine might be a problem for LIR members with many ASNs. I feel that it would be better to have this charge apply to 16-bit ASNs which are in limited supply. This could be seen as a surcharge or penalty for holding onto legacy hardware and/or supporting providers that do so. As for 32-bit ASNs, they could still be charged something but I think they should be charged quite a bit less. There's no description in the spreadsheet about the categories in model 2 (e.g. the thresholds), short of taking a look at the formulas used. It would be nice if there's further clarity around this. As it stands, for me personally model 2 is considerably cheaper than model 1. However, if model 2 was chosen then it may need some further changes for larger LIR members based on more feedback. -- Regards, Paul Lewis.
Pricing is too tight. ASN charging seems like a punishment. Very reasonable pricing for one /24 owner and dozens of /16 members. But for the rest of the members, there is a rather unfair approach. The current model should stay or a more equitable approach should be applied instead of this strict strict calculation. Not all RIPE members use the EURO currency. And injustice reaches even greater heights. Regards, Alptekin Sünnetci From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of Paul Lewis Sent: Tuesday, March 7, 2023 2:30 PM To: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: [members-discuss] [GM] Consultation on RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2024 Hi, Regarding the two proposed charging models for 2024, I honestly think that the pricing is a bit on the steep side. Model 1 certainly seems to have a sharp increase. The 50 EUR 'per ASN' charge I imagine might be a problem for LIR members with many ASNs. I feel that it would be better to have this charge apply to 16-bit ASNs which are in limited supply. This could be seen as a surcharge or penalty for holding onto legacy hardware and/or supporting providers that do so. As for 32-bit ASNs, they could still be charged something but I think they should be charged quite a bit less. There's no description in the spreadsheet about the categories in model 2 (e.g. the thresholds), short of taking a look at the formulas used. It would be nice if there's further clarity around this. As it stands, for me personally model 2 is considerably cheaper than model 1. However, if model 2 was chosen then it may need some further changes for larger LIR members based on more feedback. -- Regards, Paul Lewis.
On 07/03/2023 13:29, Paul Lewis wrote:
Hi, Regarding the two proposed charging models for 2024, I honestly think that the pricing is a bit on the steep side. Model 1 certainly seems to have a sharp increase.
The 50 EUR 'per ASN' charge I imagine might be a problem for LIR members with many ASNs. I feel that it would be better to have this charge apply to 16-bit ASNs which are in limited supply. This could be seen as a surcharge or penalty for holding onto legacy hardware and/or supporting providers that do so. As for 32-bit ASNs, they could still be charged something but I think they should be charged quite a bit less.
I see no problem with 50E charge per ASN. If you have 100 ASNs you are obviously a large organization and should have no problem paying 5000E. Regards, Hank
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Alptekin Sünnetci
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Hank Nussbacher
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Paul Lewis