Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Activity Plan and Budget 2025
On 02/10/2024 15:29, Hans Petter Holen wrote: I guess I am not understanding something. On page 8 of - https://www.ripe.net/media/documents/Draft_RIPE_NCC_Activity_Plan_and_Budget... you have visualizations for 5 different sections and the title states "Overview of the RIPE NCC Budget and Savings 2025" and the 1st section again states "Budget Savings (in kEUR)" yet in every section the numbers for 2025 are higher than for 2024. Can you explain what is the intention behind the word "savings"? Thanks, Hank
Dear members,
The Draft RIPE NCC Activity Plan and Budget 2025 is now available for your review at:
https://www.ripe.net/draft-activity-plan-budget-2025 <https:// www.ripe.net/draft-activity-plan-budget-2025>
In this document, you can learn about our plans for next year and shape the direction we take as an organisation.
In response to members’ questions about our budget, we have included more detailed information in this document about the main costs for each activity and about the staff costs in the RIPE NCC overall. We have also included key takeaways and defined commitments to ensure members can clearly understand the goals of our activities for the coming year. We will also publish two RIPE Labs articles that look at our plans and budget in more detail.
Please read the document and share any feedback on members- discuss@ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net>. The document will be discussed at the General Meeting (GM) alongside RIPE 89 and in the RIPE NCC Services Working Group on Wednesday, 30 October 2024. The Executive Board will consider all feedback on our activities before approving the final version that will be published in December 2024.
We also invite you to participate in an Open House on 9 October from 09:00 to 10:30 (UTC), where you can give feedback on the Draft Activity Plan and Budget directly to the Executive Board and RIPE NCC Management. You can register to attend at:
https://www.ripe.net/draft-activity-plan-open-house-2025 <https:// www.ripe.net/draft-activity-plan-open-house-2025>
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Kind regards
Hans Petter Holen
Managing Director
RIPE NCC
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I’d guess it’s because the draft for 2025 is written on top of the previous year’s plan and in it, for 2023-2024, there were some savings shown on that page. In any case any savings that were or will be made by optimizing existing costs during 2024 have been proposed to be repurposed within the increased 2025 budget. Sort of tangential, on page 9 bad debt and depreciation, both non-cash items originating from the balance sheet and being written off as expenses, are attributed 17 and 29 euro respectively out of 1800 euro paid for membership. From an accurate income statement point of view, it is true and correct. From a cash flow perspective there is nothing there (non-cash items, remember?) and the 46 euros of the membership fee are spent elsewhere really. :) Kaj Sent from my iPad ________________________________ From: Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il> Sent: Monday, October 7, 2024 9:25 PM To: members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: [members-discuss] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Activity Plan and Budget 2025 On 02/10/2024 15:29, Hans Petter Holen wrote: I guess I am not understanding something. On page 8 of - https://eur01.safelinks.protection.outlook.com/?url=https%3A%2F%2Fwww.ripe.net%2Fmedia%2Fdocuments%2FDraft_RIPE_NCC_Activity_Plan_and_Budget_2025.pdf&data=05%7C02%7C%7C216d033a66304be8f21208dce6fd5962%7Cd0b71c570f9b4acc923b81d0b26b55b3%7C0%7C0%7C638639223015197114%7CUnknown%7CTWFpbGZsb3d8eyJWIjoiMC4wLjAwMDAiLCJQIjoiV2luMzIiLCJBTiI6Ik1haWwiLCJXVCI6Mn0%3D%7C4000%7C%7C%7C&sdata=yx3QTwVbaHVNmOFnhrVa9iXBBY8RQ58EQRnKhuhKJmk%3D&reserved=0<https://www.ripe.net/media/documents/Draft_RIPE_NCC_Activity_Plan_and_Budget_2025.pdf> you have visualizations for 5 different sections and the title states "Overview of the RIPE NCC Budget and Savings 2025" and the 1st section again states "Budget Savings (in kEUR)" yet in every section the numbers for 2025 are higher than for 2024. Can you explain what is the intention behind the word "savings"? Thanks, Hank
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In this document, you can learn about our plans for next year and shape the direction we take as an organisation.
In response to members’ questions about our budget, we have included more detailed information in this document about the main costs for each activity and about the staff costs in the RIPE NCC overall. We have also included key takeaways and defined commitments to ensure members can clearly understand the goals of our activities for the coming year. We will also publish two RIPE Labs articles that look at our plans and budget in more detail.
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On 07/10/2024 22:28, Kaj Niemi wrote:
Sort of tangential, on page 9 bad debt and depreciation, both non-cash items originating from the balance sheet and being written off as expenses, are attributed 17 and 29 euro respectively out of 1800 euro paid for membership. From an accurate income statement point of view, it is true and correct. From a cash flow perspective there is nothing there (non-cash items, remember?) and the 46 euros of the membership fee are spent elsewhere really.
Page 11 mentions 375K of bad debts. Can we get an explanation of what that entails? Is this LIRs who have not paid their membership? That would represent quite a number of LIRs. Regards, Hank
Dear Hank, The 375K bad debt is based on 1% of LIR accounts being closed due to non-payment. Additionally, we look at trends from the past. Yearly, we close 120 to 160 LIR accounts due to non-payment, and we have an increased LIR fee for 2025. In recent years we do see more uncertainty due to unrest in our service region, and this does have impact on our bad debts. For more information, please see the 2023 Financial Report: https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/may-2024/documentation-and-archi... Page 17, 1.4 Judgements and Estimates, and Page 32 has more info on 2023 bad debts. Kind regards, Simon On 08/10/2024 12:31, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
On 07/10/2024 22:28, Kaj Niemi wrote:
Sort of tangential, on page 9 bad debt and depreciation, both non-cash items originating from the balance sheet and being written off as expenses, are attributed 17 and 29 euro respectively out of 1800 euro paid for membership. From an accurate income statement point of view, it is true and correct. From a cash flow perspective there is nothing there (non-cash items, remember?) and the 46 euros of the membership fee are spent elsewhere really.
Page 11 mentions 375K of bad debts. Can we get an explanation of what that entails? Is this LIRs who have not paid their membership? That would represent quite a number of LIRs.
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On 08/10/2024 11:03, Simon-Jan Haytink wrote:
Dear Hank,
The 375K bad debt is based on 1% of LIR accounts being closed due to non-payment. Additionally, we look at trends from the past. Yearly, we close 120 to 160 LIR accounts due to non-payment, and we have an increased LIR fee for 2025.
In recent years we do see more uncertainty due to unrest in our service region, and this does have impact on our bad debts.
For more information, please see the 2023 Financial Report: https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/may-2024/documentation-and- archives/supporting-documents/
Page 17, 1.4 Judgements and Estimates, and Page 32 has more info on 2023 bad debts.
Kind regards,
Simon
Thanks for the quick response. A LIR that doesn't pay their membership dues - what happens to their resources? Does RIPE NCC seize or recover any resources allocated? Or does the non-paying LIR move their resources to another RIR in order to avoid payment? I'm just curious as to what measures RIPE NCC can take in order to receive full payment for services render. Regards, Hank
Dear Hank, LIRs that are closed due to non-payment are closed according to the closure procedure: https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-808/ If the LIR in question has resources, these are de-registered according to that same policy. And in the end the resources are returned to the pool of resources available to members according to RIPE Policy. Also, we do not process resource transfers if there is an invoice outstanding. Cheers, Simon On 08/10/2024 18:39, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
On 08/10/2024 11:03, Simon-Jan Haytink wrote:
Dear Hank,
The 375K bad debt is based on 1% of LIR accounts being closed due to non-payment. Additionally, we look at trends from the past. Yearly, we close 120 to 160 LIR accounts due to non-payment, and we have an increased LIR fee for 2025.
In recent years we do see more uncertainty due to unrest in our service region, and this does have impact on our bad debts.
For more information, please see the 2023 Financial Report: https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/may-2024/documentation-and- archives/supporting-documents/
Page 17, 1.4 Judgements and Estimates, and Page 32 has more info on 2023 bad debts.
Kind regards,
Simon
Thanks for the quick response. A LIR that doesn't pay their membership dues - what happens to their resources? Does RIPE NCC seize or recover any resources allocated? Or does the non-paying LIR move their resources to another RIR in order to avoid payment? I'm just curious as to what measures RIPE NCC can take in order to receive full payment for services render.
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On 08/10/2024 19:26, Simon-Jan Haytink wrote: Again, thanks for the quick response. If the balance sheet shows approx. 375K of bad debts and assuming the average LIR fee is 3K, that would mean approx 125 LIRs with bad debts. Assuming also that an average LIR has a /22 - that would mean approx 127K IP are recovered per year due to bad debts of LIRs. Can RIPE NCC or RIPE Labs perhaps produce a report showing the number of reclaimed IP addresses, year by year? Regards, Hank
Dear Hank,
LIRs that are closed due to non-payment are closed according to the closure procedure:
https://www.ripe.net/publications/docs/ripe-808/
If the LIR in question has resources, these are de-registered according to that same policy. And in the end the resources are returned to the pool of resources available to members according to RIPE Policy.
Also, we do not process resource transfers if there is an invoice outstanding.
Cheers,
Simon
On 08/10/2024 18:39, Hank Nussbacher wrote:
On 08/10/2024 11:03, Simon-Jan Haytink wrote:
Dear Hank,
The 375K bad debt is based on 1% of LIR accounts being closed due to non-payment. Additionally, we look at trends from the past. Yearly, we close 120 to 160 LIR accounts due to non-payment, and we have an increased LIR fee for 2025.
In recent years we do see more uncertainty due to unrest in our service region, and this does have impact on our bad debts.
For more information, please see the 2023 Financial Report: https://www.ripe.net/membership/gm/meetings/may-2024/documentation- and- archives/supporting-documents/
Page 17, 1.4 Judgements and Estimates, and Page 32 has more info on 2023 bad debts.
Kind regards,
Simon
Thanks for the quick response. A LIR that doesn't pay their membership dues - what happens to their resources? Does RIPE NCC seize or recover any resources allocated? Or does the non-paying LIR move their resources to another RIR in order to avoid payment? I'm just curious as to what measures RIPE NCC can take in order to receive full payment for services render.
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Moin,
Again, thanks for the quick response. If the balance sheet shows approx. 375K of bad debts and assuming the average LIR fee is 3K, that would mean approx 125 LIRs with bad debts. Assuming also that an average LIR has a /22 - that would mean approx 127K IP are recovered per year due to bad debts of LIRs.
I would presume the avg. LIR to be a bit smaller, likely /23 on average.
Can RIPE NCC or RIPE Labs perhaps produce a report showing the number of reclaimed IP addresses, year by year?
Actually, the waitinglist should show that rather well. https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/ipv4/ipv4-waiting-list/ You indeed have dips ~ at the end of every year, given that prefixes will stay quarantined for some time. 22/23 saw a modest dip of ~30 LIRs getting off the waitlist (i.e., ~30 /24s reclaimed). 23/24 saw a larger dip around ~100 /24s. Finally, right now, we also see a dip of ~60 /24s. https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/ipv4/ipv4-pool/ Should show this even better; However, it might be good if that graph could be changed to /24 equivalence, allow disabling of individual sub-pools and split-out of the quarantined networks from the reserved addresses. With best regards, Tobias
Hi Hank, The word 'savings' here was meant to be 'changes' to reflect adjustments in the budget rather than reductions. Unfortunately, this update was missed in the draft version. We will make sure that this is corrected in the final version in December. Appreciate your feedback, and if you have any other questions or need further clarifications, please let us know. Kind regards, Karla Karla Liddle-White Communications Officer RIPE NCC On Mon, 7 Oct 2024 at 19:22, Hank Nussbacher <hank@interall.co.il> wrote:
On 02/10/2024 15:29, Hans Petter Holen wrote:
I guess I am not understanding something. On page 8 of -
https://www.ripe.net/media/documents/Draft_RIPE_NCC_Activity_Plan_and_Budget...
you have visualizations for 5 different sections and the title states "Overview of the RIPE NCC Budget and Savings 2025" and the 1st section again states "Budget Savings (in kEUR)" yet in every section the numbers for 2025 are higher than for 2024.
Can you explain what is the intention behind the word "savings"?
Thanks, Hank
Dear members,
The Draft RIPE NCC Activity Plan and Budget 2025 is now available for your review at:
https://www.ripe.net/draft-activity-plan-budget-2025 <https:// www.ripe.net/draft-activity-plan-budget-2025>
In this document, you can learn about our plans for next year and shape the direction we take as an organisation.
In response to members’ questions about our budget, we have included more detailed information in this document about the main costs for each activity and about the staff costs in the RIPE NCC overall. We have also included key takeaways and defined commitments to ensure members can clearly understand the goals of our activities for the coming year. We will also publish two RIPE Labs articles that look at our plans and budget in more detail.
Please read the document and share any feedback on members- discuss@ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net>. The document will be discussed at the General Meeting (GM) alongside RIPE 89 and in the RIPE NCC Services Working Group on Wednesday, 30 October 2024. The Executive Board will consider all feedback on our activities before approving the final version that will be published in December 2024.
We also invite you to participate in an Open House on 9 October from 09:00 to 10:30 (UTC), where you can give feedback on the Draft Activity Plan and Budget directly to the Executive Board and RIPE NCC Management. You can register to attend at:
https://www.ripe.net/draft-activity-plan-open-house-2025 <https:// www.ripe.net/draft-activity-plan-open-house-2025>
All the relevant information for this consultation is available at:
https://www.ripe.net/draft-activity-plan-and-budget-2025-feedback <https://www.ripe.net/draft-activity-plan-and-budget-2025-feedback>
Please note that if you want to participate or vote in the GM, you will need to register via the General Meeting section in my.ripe.net <http:// my.ripe.net>. You can find all information about the GM, including the draft agenda, at: https://www.ripe.net/gm/oct2024 <https://www.ripe.net/ gm/oct2024>
Kind regards
Hans Petter Holen
Managing Director
RIPE NCC
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Hank Nussbacher -
Kaj Niemi -
Karla Liddle-White -
Simon-Jan Haytink -
Tobias Fiebig