Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [news] The Future of the RIPE Database Proxy Service

Hi,
To give an example: one of them is at http://www.geektools.com/whois.php.
And I'm so glad to be (as a paying RIPE member, and as an ICANN accredited domain registrar running whois servers) funding their business model of providing a "service" with adsense plastered all over the page(s) querying "my" databases ...
I am sorry, it seems you have looked at a different site. Unless you count one ad at the bottom of the page as 'adsense plastered all over the page(s)'. Let's keep the FUD out of this discussion, shall we? Sander

I agree, we should keep FUD out of the discussion. Geektools whois provides no benefit over a whois query to RIPE. They admit to it being used to scrape information from the database and counter this with a nice high contrast 4 letter upper case only "security" measure to "prevent" abuse. Their standard whois server doesn't even require this minimal level of FUD, sorry security. If they want services from RIPE, they need to become a member, pay the appropriate services fee and work within the parameters set by members. The membership at large gain no benefit from a proxy service. Mike On Mon, 2013-03-11 at 23:40 +0100, Sander Steffann wrote:
Hi,
To give an example: one of them is at http://www.geektools.com/whois.php.
And I'm so glad to be (as a paying RIPE member, and as an ICANN accredited domain registrar running whois servers) funding their business model of providing a "service" with adsense plastered all over the page(s) querying "my" databases ...
I am sorry, it seems you have looked at a different site. Unless you count one ad at the bottom of the page as 'adsense plastered all over the page(s)'.
Let's keep the FUD out of this discussion, shall we? Sander
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Geektools whois provides no benefit over a whois query to RIPE.
If you're querying a RIPE IP address, that's true. It does, however, also query the other RIR databases to provide a single front-end that people might find useful. An interesting statistic may be less the four services using the DB proxy service, but the number of (not list of) client IP addresses using the service, or the rate of queries received over it. Nick has summarised this well, and I fall into the free-but-contract camp. All the best, Rob

W dniu 2013-03-14 03:01, Rob Evans pisze:
Geektools whois provides no benefit over a whois query to RIPE. If you're querying a RIPE IP address, that's true. It does, however, also query the other RIR databases to provide a single front-end that people might find useful. An interesting statistic may be less the four services using the DB proxy service, but the number of (not list of) client IP addresses using the service, or the rate of queries received over it.
Nick has summarised this well, and I fall into the free-but-contract camp. I think that free but with contrack is the best option.
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participants (4)
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Mike Hollowell
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Przemysław Gubernat
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Rob Evans
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Sander Steffann