Mass emailing towards LIRs contacts, from a Board candidate

Fellow members, I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ? Is there an abuse contact for such a behaviour ? Thanks ! -- Clément Cavadore

On 7. May 2020, at 08:57, Clement Cavadore <ccavadore@vedege.net> wrote:
Fellow members,
I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ?
Is there an abuse contact for such a behaviour ?
Yes, a lot of people were spammed by Elad Cohen on their operational mail contacts. And on every RIPE member contact information there is this clear footer: Apart from agreed Internet operational purposes, no part of this information may be reproduced, stored in a retrieval system or transmitted, in any form or by any means (electronic, mechanical, recorded or otherwise), without prior permission of the RIPE NCC. Any use of this information to target advertising, or similar activities, is explicitly forbidden and may be prosecuted. The RIPE NCC requests notification of any such activities or suspicions thereof. So no, this is very much not correct but also no surprise after his behaviour here. I contacted the RIPE NCC about this newest abuse of his. I think he should be nowhere near any position at the RIPE NCC or this community and hope people vote accordingly. Best Regards Sebastian

On Thu, 7 May 2020 17:11:46 +0200 sebastian.wiesinger at noris.net (Sebastian Wiesinger) wrote:
Yes, a lot of people were spammed by Elad Cohen on their operational mail contacts.
He has also sent messages to our abuse@ desk regarding his candidacy. He's trying to get LIRs that have had conflicts with Spamhaus to vote for him, but after observing his behavior and reading his ramblings, that is surely not going to happen.. PP

Clement My understanding is that abusing the database like that would be a terms of use violation and that you should report it to RIPE directly. Regards Michele -- Mr Michele Neylon Blacknight Solutions Hosting, Colocation & Domains https://www.blacknight.com https://blacknight.blog / http://ceo.hosting/ Intl. +353 (0) 59 9183072 Direct Dial: +353 (0)59 9183090 ------------------------------- Blacknight Internet Solutions Ltd, Unit 12A,Barrowside Business Park, Sleaty Road, Graiguecullen, Carlow, R93 X265,Ireland Company No.: 370845 On 07/05/2020, 16:09, "members-discuss on behalf of Clement Cavadore" <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net on behalf of ccavadore@vedege.net> wrote: Fellow members, I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ? Is there an abuse contact for such a behaviour ? Thanks ! -- Clément Cavadore _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/michele%40blacknight....

Hi, I have also received that message for coulpe of LIRs and I know many people have also received them. This is a spam and violation of the RIPE DB's usage terms. And the same guy dares suggest the "solution" to prevent spam. I think such behaviour is unacceptable and should be blamed. 07.05.2020, 17:09, "Clement Cavadore" <ccavadore@vedege.net>:
Fellow members,
I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ?
Is there an abuse contact for such a behaviour ?
Thanks !
-- Clément Cavadore
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Hi,
I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ?
Is there an abuse contact for such a behaviour ?
It is a violation of policies/use-policy/etc. You can notify the NCC through https://www.ripe.net/contact-form Cheers, Sander

Hi, I'm afraid the same situation is happening here. The said candidate is bothering our NOC with his technical solutions and candidacy. Did you find any abuse contact regarding this issue? Thanks. -- Klaas ________________________________ Von: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> im Auftrag von Clement Cavadore <ccavadore@vedege.net> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 7. Mai 2020 08:57 An: members-discuss@ripe.net Betreff: [members-discuss] Mass emailing towards LIRs contacts, from a Board candidate Fellow members, I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ? Is there an abuse contact for such a behaviour ? Thanks ! -- Clément Cavadore _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/klaas.tammling%40akqu...

On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 08:57:28AM +0200, Clement Cavadore wrote:
I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ?
I also got this email (have a guess whom it was from…). I believe this kind of mass-mailing is in direct violation of article 4 - section 4 of RIPE DB terms and conditions (https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/db/support/documentation/terms). -- Benjamin Collet

On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 08:53:25AM +0200, Benjamin Collet wrote:
I also got this email (have a guess whom it was from…). I believe this kind of mass-mailing is in direct violation of article 4 - section 4 of RIPE DB terms and conditions (https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/db/support/documentation/terms).
Actually, the data might not come from the RIPE DB but rather from the “List of Members” page where it clearly states that ‘any use of this information to target advertising, or similar activities, is explicitly forbidden and may be prosecuted.’ -- Benjamin Collet

The data does come from the NCC Membership pages and is misused. A clear violation of terms of use. @Elad: The silent majority disapproves. -- Best regards, Piet On 8-5-2020 09:06, Benjamin Collet wrote:
On Fri, May 08, 2020 at 08:53:25AM +0200, Benjamin Collet wrote:
I also got this email (have a guess whom it was from…). I believe this kind of mass-mailing is in direct violation of article 4 - section 4 of RIPE DB terms and conditions (https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/db/support/documentation/terms). Actually, the data might not come from the RIPE DB but rather from the “List of Members” page where it clearly states that ‘any use of this information to target advertising, or similar activities, is explicitly forbidden and may be prosecuted.’
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Hi, Not getting this at least but have had an email from a company that leases IP4 space, sent to the email address used for our Ripe account (not on any of our IP records). Apparently has /22 blocks they would like to rent out, surely unused blocks should be in Ripe's hands, not profiteers? just a thought and how they gained the email address too. Anybody else had this? Bill On 08/05/2020 07:53, Benjamin Collet wrote:
On Thu, May 07, 2020 at 08:57:28AM +0200, Clement Cavadore wrote:
I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ? I also got this email (have a guess whom it was from…). I believe this kind of mass-mailing is in direct violation of article 4 - section 4 of RIPE DB terms and conditions (https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/db/support/documentation/terms).

Hello, I'd like to ask the same question, please. Any answer come up yet? Also been receiving (incompetently translated) e-mailed ridiculousness in spam form, from a Board candidate. Thanks & best regards ________________________________ From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Clement Cavadore <ccavadore@vedege.net> Sent: 07 May 2020 08:57:28 To: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: [members-discuss] Mass emailing towards LIRs contacts, from a Board candidate Fellow members, I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ? Is there an abuse contact for such a behaviour ? Thanks ! -- Clément Cavadore _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/viethen%40itc.rwth-aa...

Okay i am now getting machine translated spam from Mr. Cohen about his campaign requesting i would wote for him. We need to stop him. All of his solutions are to drive single central authority, i probably assume towards his personal control. With his past of IP theft etc. this most definitively is not a person who should be allowed anywhere near any position of power. Personally, i would probably abstain from GM and voting, but i guess now i have to spend the hours to follow that through to make sure votes towards *anyone* else happens. I hope others who whould've otherwise abstained follows this action. Here i could insert a bunch of derogatory terms about Mr. Cohen, but i guess anyone who has even glanced the actions he has taken lately already knows those. People, please vote and vote for anyone else but Cohen. He is going after the low hanging fruit, people who will not follow or check his "ideas". -Aleksi On 5/8/20 12:51 PM, Viethen, Christoph wrote:
Hello,
I'd like to ask the same question, please. Any answer come up yet? Also been receiving (incompetently translated) e-mailed ridiculousness in spam form, from a Board candidate.
Thanks & best regards
------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Clement Cavadore <ccavadore@vedege.net> *Sent:* 07 May 2020 08:57:28 *To:* members-discuss@ripe.net *Subject:* [members-discuss] Mass emailing towards LIRs contacts, from a Board candidate Fellow members,
I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ?
Is there an abuse contact for such a behaviour ?
Thanks !
-- Clément Cavadore
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I can confirm this issue. Managing multiple LIRs I have received the candidacy promotion of EC via e-mail on all LIR contact e-mail addresses two times each. -Florian Fuessl
Am 07.05.2020 um 08:57 schrieb Clement Cavadore <ccavadore@vedege.net>:
Fellow members,
I have received multiple times (to many of the LIRs I manage contact emails), this night, an e-mail coming from a RIPE NCC Board candidate, who promotes his candidacy. Be his candidacy admissible and decent or not, is not the point. But, is that kind of mass-mailing correct ?
Is there an abuse contact for such a behaviour ?
Thanks !
-- Clément Cavadore
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participants (13)
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Aleksi
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Alexander Zubkov
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Benjamin Collet
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Bill Lewis
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Clement Cavadore
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Florian Fuessl
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Michele Neylon - Blacknight
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Pavel Polyakov
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Piet Honkoop
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Sander Steffann
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Sebastian Wiesinger
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Tammling, Klaas
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Viethen, Christoph