RIPE Executive Board Seat Discussion
Howdy all, I have not seen any discussion on this topic so I would like to bring it up to all members. Many of us are obviously very concerned about the direction that RIPE is heading with its charging scheme and their failure to acknowledge that you cannot discuss a charging scheme change without addressing the budget. I would like to propose that we as RIPE members, discuss and identify 3 candidates whom we can nominate and elect to the executive board that will address things from the perspective of its users and help keep this organization in check. I'd love to hear everyone's thoughts on this, as well as if anyone has any interest in taking up such a challenge. All the best. Daniel Pearson~
Hi Daniel,
Many of us are obviously very concerned about the direction that RIPE is heading with its charging scheme and their failure to acknowledge that you cannot discuss a charging scheme change without addressing the budget.
I would like to propose that we as RIPE members, discuss and identify 3 candidates whom we can nominate and elect to the executive board that will address things from the perspective of its users and help keep this organization in check.
Just for context: What do you think that the job of the current executive board members is and how do you think they have gotten their seat? Cheers, Alex Le Heux Network Architect Tucows Inc / Ting Fiber aleheux@tucowsinc.com
Hi Alex, On 4/26/23 10:26, Alex Le Heux wrote:
Hi Daniel,
Many of us are obviously very concerned about the direction that RIPE is heading with its charging scheme and their failure to acknowledge that you cannot discuss a charging scheme change without addressing the budget.
I would like to propose that we as RIPE members, discuss and identify 3 candidates whom we can nominate and elect to the executive board that will address things from the perspective of its users and help keep this organization in check. Just for context: What do you think that the job of the current executive board members is and how do you think they have gotten their seat? In simple terms, their job is, or at least should be, to execute the RIPE mission statement and be proper stewards and representatives of the members at large.
I would hate to assume how anyone received their seat, however working in open source and being a board member of a non-profit myself I personally know and understand the lack of interest people show when they are asked to invest their time for free into a project. How do you think they have gotten their seat?
Cheers,
Alex Le Heux Network Architect Tucows Inc / Ting Fiber aleheux@tucowsinc.com
Alex Le Heux Network Architect Tucows Inc / Ting Fiber aleheux@tucowsinc.com
On 26 Apr 2023, at 17:37, Daniel Pearson <daniel@privatesystems.net> wrote:
Hi Alex,
On 4/26/23 10:26, Alex Le Heux wrote:
Hi Daniel,
Many of us are obviously very concerned about the direction that RIPE is heading with its charging scheme and their failure to acknowledge that you cannot discuss a charging scheme change without addressing the budget.
I would like to propose that we as RIPE members, discuss and identify 3 candidates whom we can nominate and elect to the executive board that will address things from the perspective of its users and help keep this organization in check. Just for context: What do you think that the job of the current executive board members is and how do you think they have gotten their seat? In simple terms, their job is, or at least should be, to execute the RIPE mission statement and be proper stewards and representatives of the members at large.
I would hate to assume how anyone received their seat, however working in open source and being a board member of a non-profit myself I personally know and understand the lack of interest people show when they are asked to invest their time for free into a project.
How do you think they have gotten their seat?
You can read all about that here: https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board Spoiler: They’re elected by the membership Cheers, Alex
Alex, I do appreciate your sarcasm as it's not lost on me here, but I think what is perhaps lost on you is that the same three individuals who's term is expiring are the same and only three individuals currently up for re-election. If the membership takes no action, which it currently is not, then the membership cannot expect any major change in view point either from the board. That is the whole point of this discussion is to bring attention to the fact that currently, none of these seats are being challenged as far as I can tell and suggest that doing so might be beneficial. Daniel~ On 4/26/23 10:46, Alex Le Heux wrote:
Alex Le Heux Network Architect Tucows Inc / Ting Fiber aleheux@tucowsinc.com
On 26 Apr 2023, at 17:37, Daniel Pearson <daniel@privatesystems.net> wrote:
Hi Alex,
On 4/26/23 10:26, Alex Le Heux wrote:
Hi Daniel,
Many of us are obviously very concerned about the direction that RIPE is heading with its charging scheme and their failure to acknowledge that you cannot discuss a charging scheme change without addressing the budget.
I would like to propose that we as RIPE members, discuss and identify 3 candidates whom we can nominate and elect to the executive board that will address things from the perspective of its users and help keep this organization in check. Just for context: What do you think that the job of the current executive board members is and how do you think they have gotten their seat? In simple terms, their job is, or at least should be, to execute the RIPE mission statement and be proper stewards and representatives of the members at large.
I would hate to assume how anyone received their seat, however working in open source and being a board member of a non-profit myself I personally know and understand the lack of interest people show when they are asked to invest their time for free into a project.
How do you think they have gotten their seat? You can read all about that here:
https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board
Spoiler: They’re elected by the membership
Cheers,
Alex
On 26 Apr 2023, at 17:51, Daniel Pearson <daniel@privatesystems.net> wrote:
Alex,
I do appreciate your sarcasm as it's not lost on me here, but I think what is perhaps lost on you is that the same three individuals who's term is expiring are the same and only three individuals currently up for re-election.
If the membership takes no action, which it currently is not, then the membership cannot expect any major change in view point either from the board.
That is the whole point of this discussion is to bring attention to the fact that currently, none of these seats are being challenged as far as I can tell and suggest that doing so might be beneficial.
So you’re really just calling for more candidates to step forward? Is that it? Several who are not currently on the board already have: https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2023/executive-boa... A few have received enough nominations of support, a few others have not (yet). Have you nominated or supported a candidate yet? :) Cheers, Alex Le Heux Network Architect Tucows Inc / Ting Fiber aleheux@tucowsinc.com
On 4/26/23 10:46, Alex Le Heux wrote:
Alex Le Heux Network Architect Tucows Inc / Ting Fiber aleheux@tucowsinc.com
On 26 Apr 2023, at 17:37, Daniel Pearson <daniel@privatesystems.net> wrote:
Hi Alex,
On 4/26/23 10:26, Alex Le Heux wrote:
Hi Daniel,
Many of us are obviously very concerned about the direction that RIPE is heading with its charging scheme and their failure to acknowledge that you cannot discuss a charging scheme change without addressing the budget.
I would like to propose that we as RIPE members, discuss and identify 3 candidates whom we can nominate and elect to the executive board that will address things from the perspective of its users and help keep this organization in check. Just for context: What do you think that the job of the current executive board members is and how do you think they have gotten their seat? In simple terms, their job is, or at least should be, to execute the RIPE mission statement and be proper stewards and representatives of the members at large.
I would hate to assume how anyone received their seat, however working in open source and being a board member of a non-profit myself I personally know and understand the lack of interest people show when they are asked to invest their time for free into a project.
How do you think they have gotten their seat? You can read all about that here:
https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board
Spoiler: They’re elected by the membership
Cheers,
Alex
Hi Alex, That is exactly it. We have seen a fair amount of discussion regarding the pricing model changes, and the overall budget yet zero discussion regarding any candidate for election. I'm glad to see that several people outside of the incumbents are applying for positions on the board, thank you for sending that link. However, there is still a huge deficit in participation overall both for candidates and nominations. 41~ out of 20,000+ members have made their voice heard in regards to the candidates. It's obvious these individuals are campaigning directly and privately to LIR holders whom they know on a personal level to receive these nominations which is fine in its self, but does nothing to foster involvement from the wider membership base. I have not nominated or supported a candidate yet as I have not seen anything come across in the way of an individual who has even shown interest in such, however I hope that fostering a discussion such as this may allow potential candidates to bring themselves to light and receive nominations from the greater community just as the pricing discussions have engaged a lot of people. Daniel~ On 4/26/23 10:56, Alex Le Heux wrote:
On 26 Apr 2023, at 17:51, Daniel Pearson <daniel@privatesystems.net> wrote:
Alex,
I do appreciate your sarcasm as it's not lost on me here, but I think what is perhaps lost on you is that the same three individuals who's term is expiring are the same and only three individuals currently up for re-election.
If the membership takes no action, which it currently is not, then the membership cannot expect any major change in view point either from the board.
That is the whole point of this discussion is to bring attention to the fact that currently, none of these seats are being challenged as far as I can tell and suggest that doing so might be beneficial. So you’re really just calling for more candidates to step forward? Is that it?
Several who are not currently on the board already have:
https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2023/executive-boa...
A few have received enough nominations of support, a few others have not (yet).
Have you nominated or supported a candidate yet? :)
Cheers,
Alex Le Heux Network Architect Tucows Inc / Ting Fiber aleheux@tucowsinc.com
On 4/26/23 10:46, Alex Le Heux wrote:
Alex Le Heux Network Architect Tucows Inc / Ting Fiber aleheux@tucowsinc.com
On 26 Apr 2023, at 17:37, Daniel Pearson <daniel@privatesystems.net> wrote:
Hi Alex,
On 4/26/23 10:26, Alex Le Heux wrote:
Hi Daniel,
Many of us are obviously very concerned about the direction that RIPE is heading with its charging scheme and their failure to acknowledge that you cannot discuss a charging scheme change without addressing the budget.
I would like to propose that we as RIPE members, discuss and identify 3 candidates whom we can nominate and elect to the executive board that will address things from the perspective of its users and help keep this organization in check. Just for context: What do you think that the job of the current executive board members is and how do you think they have gotten their seat? In simple terms, their job is, or at least should be, to execute the RIPE mission statement and be proper stewards and representatives of the members at large.
I would hate to assume how anyone received their seat, however working in open source and being a board member of a non-profit myself I personally know and understand the lack of interest people show when they are asked to invest their time for free into a project.
How do you think they have gotten their seat? You can read all about that here:
https://www.ripe.net/about-us/executive-board
Spoiler: They’re elected by the membership
Cheers,
Alex
https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2023/executive-boa...
am i a space case on too little coffee, or is it telling that the page has no link to how one submits support for a candidate? randy
Hi Randy, I am pretty sure you just submit a nomination for the candidate using the form[1] linked on that page. [1]: https://www.ripe.net/participate/forms/apply/gm-nominations-2023/ -Cynthia On Mon, May 1, 2023 at 5:23 PM Randy Bush <randy@psg.com> wrote:
https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2023/executive-boa...
am i a space case on too little coffee, or is it telling that the page has no link to how one submits support for a candidate?
randy
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Peace, On Mon, 1 May 2023, 6:22 pm Randy Bush, <randy@psg.com> wrote:
https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2023/executive-boa...
am i a space case on too little coffee, or is it telling that the page has no link to how one submits support for a candidate?
"You can nominate/support an individual by completing the AGM Nomination form. You must be a RIPE NCC member and a registered LIR contact to support a nomination. https://www.ripe.net/participate/forms/apply/gm-nominations-2023/ " Don't know if it was there from the beginning or was added after your message. -- Töma
Hi Randy, We added the link and it's now on that page as well as on the other election information page. Thanks for pointing that out. Best regards, Fergal On 28/04/2023 18:10, Randy Bush wrote:
https://www.ripe.net/participate/meetings/gm/meetings/may-2023/executive-boa...
am i a space case on too little coffee, or is it telling that the page has no link to how one submits support for a candidate?
randy
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fergal,
We added the link and it's now on that page as well as on the other election information page. Thanks for pointing that out.
also my fault. when you said "support nomination" i somehow assumed this was different than nominating. as i said, undercaffeinated. randy
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