Thanks for your response.
No you don’t. You pay for your membership. Resources don’t consume money.
https://www.ripe.net/media/images/Where_Your_Fee_Goes_Draft_Activity_Plan_an... -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards Murat TERZIOGLU PREBITS Bochumer Str. 20 44866 Bochum Deutschland Telefon: 0234/58825994 Telefax: 0234/58825995 www.prebits.de info@prebits.de USt-ID: DE315418902 -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> Im Auftrag von Sebastian Wiesinger Gesendet: Dienstag, 14. Mai 2024 15:46 An: members-discuss@ripe.net Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] [comms-circle] Re: [ncc-announce] [GM] Executive Board Meeting to Discuss Charging Scheme Input from Members
On 14. May 2024, at 14:45, <m.terzioglu@prebits.de> <m.terzioglu@prebits.de> wrote:
Hi,
do you know, how many members took part to the votes? If you compare to the participation generally, it is a big part. And of course it is a reaction of the members, many members.
The statement was that a large portion *of the membership* supported the proposal. That is simply not true. Also the members that vote are not the same group of people that supported the proposal.
And the Sponsoring LIR is not a option.
Why?
In anyway, if the small resource holder, whereas they are about more than 60% of actual members, make consolidation or move to other options, the problem will again occur for remaining members and the board will try to ensure the budget...
Sure, that might be the case. We already hat higher membership fees in the past and if more LIRs leave then they will increase again. This is not something that should surprise anyone. And when “small resource holders” make “consolidations” in the most cases this means they only registered in the first place to get more IPv4 space by gaming the system. We see that effect already. That’s just how it is.
So we will have discussion again. And we don’t have this discussion in this year only. For years there is no solution for this problem and the 700 people showed their reaction in different contexts.
The solution is to discuss the Activity Plan and convince the membership that there should be changes in the plan.
"Or just quit being a member if you feel it is not worth it. Sponsoring LIRs are available to you." By the way, this is not your decision I think.. This is not a private family company...
If people complain that the fees are too high for them I think it is reasonable to suggest cheaper alternatives.
If I were someone who owns for example /15 subnet, of course I would prefer to have the offered proposals because the others with only /24 or /23 subnet pay for my resources also…
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