Dear all,
Unfortunately, the models presented here are somewhat focused on address
leasing. The payment scheme we are discussing at length here should be
supplemented by a commitment from RIPE regarding address space
management. Then we wouldn’t have to blame each other over whether large
or small entities should save money.

Model A. Everyone will pay the same. At the same time, RIPE will commit
to distributing address space fairly. It will find a methodology to
determine the needs of individual LIRs and will regularly redistribute
address space so that all LIRs have, as far as possible, the same
percentage shortage of the limited number of addresses. Or it will at
least regularly reduce the largest allocations to meet at least the
basic needs of new LIRs. This means a lot of work for RIPE and for the
LIRs themselves (frequent reallocations). However, all members will face
similar problems (with address shortages and reallocations), yet they
will all be able to function effectively. The nonsensical market for
reselling IPv4 addresses will come to an end.

Model B. LIRs with insufficient allocations will accept that RIPE cannot
guarantee them a fair allocation, but at least they will save on fees.
Those with large allocations will pay a higher fee. If they have such a
surplus of addresses that they cannot profit from them despite the
higher fee, nothing prevents them from returning a portion.

M. Prokes

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Dne 23.04.2026 v 10:24 Simon Lockhart napsal(a):
> When will you get into your head that this isn't about rental of IPv4
> address
> space (the model you seem to be pushing), but rather about modelling
> how the
> costs for a database (and community resource) provider should be
> apportioned
> amongst its members.
>
> One /8 takes up as much space in a database (1 row) as a /24 (1 row).
>
> Simon
>
> On Wed Apr 22, 2026 at 09:13:37PM +0300, sdy@a-n-t.ru wrote:
>> It's very simple! The "wonderful" developers group of the price list
>> decided that those who have 5-20 thousand IP addresses and who already
>> lack them catastrophically will pay for the owners of a millions IP
>> addresses. It's called GREAT FRAUD! This is absolutely unacceptable.
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