Am Dienstag, 10. März 2026, 16:02:56 UTC+00:00:01 schrieb Brandon Butterworth:
V4 is done I hear this since decades now...
...but to be true - the reality out there (i experience) is still very far from that. The demand for IPv4 based services remains high. To these days IPv6 was not able to provide some real successor of IPv4 leading to significant numbers of network users / companies to drop IPv4 and only a few (mainly telcos) prefer IPv6 o IPv4 in their deployments. And the demand for IPv4 based services on the globe is still growing. I experience myself the discussions within large enterprises about inventing IPv6 in their networks (most only have a few services IPv6 ready to the outside) and all of them dropped it since today regularly because of "no benefit for us" (many older of them are LIR and many of them have much more IPv4 address space they will ever need/use). As others still mentioned here: the current RIPE charging models will further help to more service centralization with dying smaller sompanies / market diversity for different reasons. If IPv6 will ever success over IPv4, it will be very probably AFTER the market cleansing. RIPE then probably will be change into some "public" governmental entity or another pseudo NGO with very few big members.
This is why we vote for the fixed fee each time, if the offered variable rates suited the higher number of smaller members then they would have been accepted previously. hmm, i remember the last argument (in a discussion of the wschemes on one of the last RIPE XX) from some of the RIPE board against "pay for what you use" models was, that RIPE "fears" to confornt very large companies with much larger fees up to the millions per year while they have "more money and potent lawyers to fight against this per courts".
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