Salut, On Thu, Jun 18, 2009 at 09:50:40PM +0000, Sven Olaf Kamphuis wrote:
you cant first tell someone "sure we will register ip sppace for your company, please pay 2500 euros which covers our work and the first 2 years in which potentially our ripe-score could be affected by this registration (PI and AS numbers only count for 2 years in the score), and then go "oops, now you have to either pay a few 1000 to ripe OR a few hundred to us (most customers have as numberrs AND PI space)"...
thats blackmail.
As far as I can see, there are two options for the LIRs, depending on the contract they signed with the customer. If the contract permits, it is probably the best for the LIR to return the PI ressources to RIPE to be converted to a direct assignment. This way, RIPE will have to bother with the legal implication of suddenly demanding charges for a contract which only mentioned initial charges. If that is not the case, the LIR can _kindly_ request the customer to pay a recurring fee for the IP space, just for charity. If the customer refuses, then the LIR will have to pay the fee out of their own pockets. I don't see a way the LIR can legally force their customers to pay this sum. Kind regards, Tonnerre -- SyGroup GmbH Tonnerre Lombard Solutions Systematiques Tel:+41 61 333 80 33 Güterstrasse 86 Fax:+41 61 383 14 67 4053 Basel Web:www.sygroup.ch tonnerre.lombard@sygroup.ch