Hi, On Tue, Oct 04, 2011 at 10:57:49PM +0200, Christopher Kunz wrote:
I think the meeting and trainings offered by RIPE shouldn't be seen with the attitude of "I never used it, so you should pay for it". IMHO, the trainings (of which I never could attend one due to lack of a travel budget) and the meetings (ditto) serve a very important purpose for the community: They make it easier for new LIRs to receive the know-how necessary to run their services smoothly. By learning the ropes, they save all the other LIRs time and subsequently, money.
Training and meetings are two things I'd never argue for the cutting of. Centralising training is also not really an option as the RIPE membership exceeds well beyond the borders of the EU and I do not expect inbound travel to get any easier for non-EU residents due to political mood swings within the EU. Since the meetings are usuall held in EU cities anyway, I'd argue for centralising them in NL *if* it would save a significant amount of money.
That's why I'll agree to pay for trainings I never use - because I can be fairly certain I'll benefit indirectly.
Fully agree. And a suggestion to the NCC: Maybe incorporating a tutorial on subscribing to RIPE mailing lists into the LIR training would be a good idea ;)
And to the people who want RIPE to cut costs by not offering free Wi-fi at their events (etc.): Please tell me that was a joke. In my book that's like not offering complimentary seats during a train ride.
I blame Ryanair and Michael O'Leary for bringing that attitude into the world... cheers, Sascha Luck