To be understood, my uncle who is over 80 lives in Kiev. Any questions left? Still I do see any connection between the war and ENOG. And I think, that Russia and Ukraine are not the only ENOG members. Sure, let's destroy everything good left.
Kharkiv is being shelled by MRLS from Russia's territory. Chernihiv is being shelled by MRLS and aircraft from Belarus' territory. Kyiv is being shelled by Iskanders from Belarus' territory. I've seen explosions of your P-500 rockets by my own eyes from my window. Mariupol is being ruined with shellings from all sides. Your crazy president ordered to open fire on Zaporizhya nuclear plant. It is the biggest NPP in Europe.
But for you ENOG termination is to "escalate conflict that far" ?!
Are there _normal_ people still left in your rotten country?
You may push your "deep regrets" in your ass. ENOG is dead from 2014, let's finally bury it.
P.S. While I was writing this, a next air alert siren started ringing. Thank you, russian "brothers".
On Fri, Mar 04, 2022 at 02:03:27 +0300, alex wrote:
Dear Töma, I believe I have read your message in one of the telegram channels today. Still could not find the logic of it. I would like to stipulate, that I deeply regret, that people are under attack at the moment, no matter if they are ENOG/RIPE or any other entity members. This should have never happened in 21 century, as we all thought we have learned harsh lessons of the WW II.
Niether the less, it really necessary to escalate the conflict that far?
If you are convinced that you don't want to run ENOG, with all the respect, maybe it is more expedient to hand over the management to someone else? I seriously doubt that ENOG members support missile attacks. In my humble opinion, it would not do any good, and apparently it would not stop attacks either.
Peace, (which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever be, — because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace)
As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network Operators Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that the RIPE Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the potential future meetings indefinitely.
Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating Ukrainian, Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other regional communities in the hope of building a better shared Internet space among the communities.
In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the said "ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it could be clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme for all the distinct and divided communities colloqually recognized as ENOG at the time.
Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this should've gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we currently have several PC members under ongoing _missile attacks_, and I therefore don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote in the PC.
Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't believe I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE Service Region to still invest trust in me, without further due diligence, to hold any official community position in the RIPE community; therefore, I hereby step down as the PC Chair.
It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to decide on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to act. It is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any future alignments to replace ENOG.
Stay safe.
-- Töma
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