On Tue, Jul 17, 2012 at 03:00:14PM +0200, Paolo Di Francesco wrote:

Therefore I do not find scandalous that a bigger LIR that probably makes

billions per year (e.g. mobile companies) should pay to RIPE  50K Euros

per year. RIPE is not useful only to me, but to EVERY SINGLE EUROPEAN

LIR. Moreover, the more resources (e.g. IPv4, AS, etc) you allocate, the

more you use the DB, the more you open tickets, etc.

Firstly, not everyone makes money from the use of resources.
Non-profits, charitable organisations, and individuals with PI space
exist.  
Secondly, it would require the NCC to *know* how much money a member
makes and this information is something a non-public company would not
be keen to divulge.
Thirdly, I'm sure there are many large telcos who, while using large
amounts of resources, are actually making a loss on paper. Will they get
a free ride?

1) can we delegate somebody to go and vote? If so we could ask to other

Lirs or Associations of Providers to step in and do vote for N LIRs. I

do not think that would be a problem to delegate somebody who will

represent your company, isn't it?

2) do we have a remote mechanism to participate and vote?

A member can nominate a proxy to vote on their behalf or vote
electronically (that has in the past not always been possible for all
votes) as laid out in http://www.ripe.net/ripe/docs/ripe-514

I note that http://www.ripe.net/lir-services/ncc/gm does not have any
information regarding these possibilities, maybe the NCC could remedy
this?

rgds,
Sascha Luck

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