El 23/09/2016 a las 10:24, Anthony Somerset escribió:
This sounds like the perfect idea though
I love the idea of the incentive to IPv6 deploy, but you all are forgetting the what I thing is the biggest problem. End-User equipment. There are several millions of home routers that are not IPv6 ready.
Lobby the main providers/generators of Internet Bandwidth usage to only support IPv6 on new tech/products - even if only for initial launch phases.
For example Netflix is starting to do UHD/4k, wouldn’t it be great if we could get them and google and others to only offer 4k/UHD on V6 only for a period of time like 3-6 months or even longer. The main challenge which makes this a long shot is that you need all of the major content providers to do it together otherwise none of them will because the consumer is so fickle, they will just switch in a heartbeat
The problem are not Google or Netflix, the problem still the big telcos who has the bast majority of users. If they are not IPv6, doesnt matter if google/netflix/facebook/whatever are IPv6 ready. If Netflix only provide 4K/UHD in IPv6, when the customer goes to the telco to complain, the telco will say "Hey, its a Netflix problem, not mine" tell Netflix to offer it in IPv4, dont complain to me! And the disadvantaged will be again the customer. Last IPv6 Statistics from google sais:[1] Native: 13.75% 6to4/Teredo: 0.01% Total IPv6: 13.75% The incentive is fine and Im not agains it but, what about penalize those big telcos who have a lot of IPv4 unused if they are not moving to IPv6? Sadly, the world move faster to avoid a penalization than for a incentive for doing it. Regards, [1] https://www.google.com/intl/en/ipv6/statistics.html
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On 23 Sep,2016, at 10:16, Tom Lehtinen <ripe@tombii.com <mailto:ripe@tombii.com>> wrote:
Tunnels? seriously? no, please... End-users shouldn't care about which IP version they are using. +1 +1 [snip] Maybe a better idea would be to create a fund for financial support of IPv6 deployments of providers, especially the big ones. Because most of
On 22.9.2016 v 23:07 Carlos Friacas wrote: them have no real technical problems, they just deliberately postpone the IPv6 adoption unless inevitable. The main idea is the later they deploy it, the less money it would cost. They don't have any actual need to deploy it, unless, say, YouTube stops playing HD videos to IPv4 clients. (That would be cool, actually.) I'm fully aware that any such support will be unfair to all those that already used their own money to deploy IPv6. But on the other hand, deploying IPv6 at big providers is in the interest of the RIPE community as a whole. I'd rather give the money to Google and other large content providers and ask them to stop supporting IPv4. Then let the big telcos deploy IPv6 because finally they will have to unless they want to lose all
On 23.09.2016 10:08, Ondřej Caletka wrote: their customers. Not saying that this is a good idea though...
Regards, Tom
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