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On 04/13/2018 06:32 AM, Daniel Pearson wrote:
As my grandfather use to say. "If
it ain't broke, don't fix it".
I know it makes everyone feel good to have these pointless
discussions and if that's what it takes by all means continue
on, I do find them entertaining, but please, join reality. End
of the day this is business, it costs money. Considering no
rate increases and the fact that most years we've had a
surplus so who cares if they blow a little money on hookers
and coke, it's ok. RIPE provides us a good, reliable service
and prompt turn around time on any requests. As someone else
has said, try working with other RIRs.
Anyways, carry on.
On 04/13/2018 02:03 AM, Huf Oliver, CI-A Rolls-Royce Power
Systems AG wrote:
William,
while I
don't feel competent enough to comment on the first part
of your reply, I fully second the last paragraph!
Oliver.
Must
be some joke (i hope at least).
Russia
does not have staff needs available unless you pay
excessive (skilled are in fact leaving anyway, we
have a bunch of Russians working from Cyprus
nowadays), Russia is not politically stable (a
stable autocracy is not politically stable overall)
and the currency fluctuates between basically
worthless and entirely worthless.
Government
control is excessive, freedom of business is low,
growth is low, legal security is nil.... plus one
more round of UN sanctions could cut off any RIPE
member from paying invoices entirely.
Russia
is in no way suitable for RIPE (and in fact,
Bulgaria has less tax than Russia anyway + a much
more simple tax system + EU).
In
case of no joke... after speaking with some LIRs
we'll boycott any attempts to move the NCC out of
the EU and i assume from the statutes this requires
a full member vote which is extremely unlikely to
pass for Russia (or in practice anyone else).
AFAIK,
social charges paid by the employer in
NL are around 28%, so it's less than
3000 euros per month per staff member
of income.
And
that's before social charges paid by
the employee (18%), so it's less
than 2500€ of net income per staff.
I
would not judge if that's high or
low in NL, but that's not 4000€
So,
we can move the RIPE office to another
country, with less salary numbers. E.g.
there are the salary numbers approximately
1500€ in Russia, including tax 13%. With
social tax 30% the salary numbers are 2000€
in Moscow.
What
do you think about it? Me and my colleagues,
who wrote here earlier, are ready to help
the community with relocation.
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