There just aren't enough IPv4 addresses left to do that. Then you bring into the immediate question is your justification better than my justification.

This day and age if you're starting any internet based business that requires it's own IP space you either have to be very conservative with IPs and remain within the /22 or you have to budget accordingly and make transactions on the secondary market to increase your space.

Otherwise plenty of carriers, datacenters and providers still rent/lease IPv4 on long term contracts as well. Having your own is cheaper yes, but not near as cheap as when the internet began. It's nature, things just get more expensive with time and consumption.



On 05/02/2018 03:46 AM, Adrian Bolster wrote:

The current rules are a good middle ground, however, as a relatively new ISP we can only access one /22 per LIR. Newer entities, such as us, do not have legacy IPv4 space which immediately inhibits growth and competition in the ISP marketplace.

 

A fairer policy would be to allocate for a LIR’s justifiable needs, taking into account their current allocations; but for RIPE to retain an override on these allocations. By monitoring for any unused space it would be possible to remove any unused to be recycled.

 

Also, governments and larger organisations are sat on huge IPv4 real estate that is not in use. This is another area that needs exploring.

 

After all, IPv6 isn’t ubiquitous yet, so something constructive has to be done.

 

From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> On Behalf Of William
Sent: 01 May 2018 18:15
To: Thomas Gallo - Nice Blue srl <thomas@niceblue.it>
Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net
Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Multiple LIR account mergers

 

As someone that would profit from this i am absolutely against it.

 

RIPE exists for specific reasons - selling out IPs is not one of them, and the legacy market as well as inter-RIR transfers cover the business needs at this time.

 

The current merger rules are a good middle way.

 

 

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Consulting, Security & Management - Tel-Aviv, Israel / Rijeka, Croatia

 

https://ip6.im - No RIPE LIR? Still read this email for some reason? Grab a /40 *free* IPv6 space for BGP usage. Or just get it anyway, can't hurt to have.

 

 

On Tue, May 1, 2018 at 13:17, Thomas Gallo - Nice Blue srl <thomas@niceblue.it> wrote:

YES! Probably this would be possible...
...just setting the RIPE  sign-up fee of 4600 EUR that includes the first two years of membership in a non refoundable way   ( :


Thomas

Il 01/05/2018 10:45, Dmitry Vorozhtsov ha scritto:

I think it would be great!

 

Best regards, Dmitry Vorozhtsov.

 

2018-04-30 22:07 GMT+09:00 Aleksey Bulgakov <aleksbulgakov@gmail.com>:

Hello, all.

 

What do you think if the NCC allow to merge accounts of the same company without 24 months restriction? 

 

I thing this question should be discussed on the RIPE meeting in Marseille.

 

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Kind regards,

Alexey


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