As RIPE members, our costs are based on RIPE's costs. Something like 2/3rds of RIPE's costs are for personnel. So let's find out what the personnel are doing and why, and charge largely on that. For example, if a large portion of RIPE's personnel are handing requests (allocations, approvals, new ASes, DNS changes, questions, etc), then let's charge something based on the number of "requests". This would more fairly depict how much RIPE spends taking care of a member. Objects and allocations may have something to do with it, but 5 objects in a database cost little more than 1 object or 100 objects. At least the difference is minimal in terms of real-life costs. As an example, we have a /19 (because that's what RIPE decided to give us back when we became a member), but I guess we have only 2-5 real "requests" per year which require human intervention. So why should we be paying for a random (perhaps larger) portion of the RIPE personnel budget instead of just enough to cover our 2-5 requests (plus some overhead, of course)? Just a thought... Cheers, Ray ___ carpeNet Information Technologies GmbH Lorsbacher Str. 4, 65719 Hofheim, Deutschland www.carpe.net T: +49-6192-964400 F: +49-6192-964449 Amtsgericht Frankfurt HRB 41374, Geschäftsführer: Ray Davis On 3. Aug 2011, at 14:21 Uhr, Simon Lockhart wrote:
On Wed Aug 03, 2011 at 01:18:11PM +0100, Erik Bais wrote:
Paying per object does actually reflect somewhat on the amount of labor/time/effort that the RIPE NCC workforce has to deal with you.
Just for clarity, I believe we should be talking about allocations here, not objects in the database.
I have 5 or 6 IPv4 allocations from RIPE. Within those, I probably have over 100 assignment objects recorded in the database.
I think it would be fair to be charged based on the number of allocations, as each allocation requires time with the RIPE NCC to process the request.
Simon
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