21 Nov
2013
21 Nov
'13
5:40 p.m.
+1. This looks clearly personal. Especially those half-anonymous
complains ("Administration - [ inAsset Networks ]") look strange to me
(no offense). And William, thank you for sharing all the details about
your personal life (Who is more evil?) - but probably most people here
do not find it interesting (just an assumption).
"Administration - [ inAsset Networks ]", William, did you two somehow
organize to get together today to start this? I dont need an answer.
Focus on facts please and keep the noise low. Thank you.
The Management.
Am 21.11.2013 17:21, schrieb Christian Hoffmann [sfip84 Hosting und mehr
UG]:
> Hey,
>
> am i the only person having the feeling that there is a private issue
> going on here?
> I mean come on, this guy has the bigger one, i am jalous too, but as
> part of the RIPE NCC i think i really should trust the persons working
> for the NCC.
> For my understanding with every new allocation (and he has a lot..)
> there is an Audit going on.
>
> Ok, he is announcing part of the networks outside the RIPE Area, but for
> my understanding that is ok as long as the company and the core network
> is based in Europe. Or did i missed something.
>
>
>
> Am 21.11.2013 17:12, schrieb William Weber:
>> Hello together,
>>
>> So so so, finally he can reply - Hello there Mr. Lu, why were my
>> previous contact tries ignored?
>>
>> I was in fact *AT YOUR ADDRESS* in Holland in 2012, nobody there - I
>> would have someone sent to your address in China also, but that one is
>> unclear described.
>>
>> >I wondering where you have the inaccurate income data about me
>> personally and my private company as well
>> I do not need to share any sources (what is this, the PLA?), all data
>> was obtained legally in my country of residence (Slovenia) and Austria
>> - I can not vouch for correctness but in the past it was usually near
>> the expected.
>> Not like your data is secret in the Netherlands.
>>> making an criminal charge(corruption) to Ripe NCC, inaccurate publish
>>> our private income data in the public space without supporting
>>> evidence are very serious offense under european law, although my
>>> lawyer strongly suggest him to write the letter, I insists my self to
>>> write here just because I would appreciate member's understanding and
>>> community's support.
>>
>> I'm not sure what gives you the idea that Dutch law would be
>> applicable to me in Slovenia/Austaira (or at all, considering that
>> Slovenia/Austria as per constitution cannot extradict citizens)?
>>
>> The statement of mine - *POSSIBLE* bribe - Is fully legal to make,
>> even the implication of it would be - The RIPE ticket system is also
>> not the public and neither is the mailing list, it is a closed system.
>>
>> You can sue me all you want, i have not much to loose currently, and
>> once cleared move to Israel which does neither extradict nor care much
>> about Europe.
>> The Austrian police confiscated my hardware 2012 and 2013, the
>> Austrian police investigates my financial transactions, the Polish
>> police wants to see me in jail (and has an order for that), Hongkong
>> authorities are not amused, my phones and internet is taped, i am
>> being followed by the Austrian police.
>>
>> Just google my name and add "tor" and you get an image, you (and no
>> one else) can threaten me with "law" anymore.
>>
>> I will reply more lenghty later, because even though the Austrian
>> government does not like me they still send me invitations to
>> broadband expansion forums and force me to attend and speak.
>>
>> Also, most here agree with me and you CLEARLY violate RIPE policies
>> with the ARIN routing and others - So *you* are the one that should
>> explain himself, not me.
>>
>> This is also a note: *The statements here are fully personal or
>> statements of my own companies, not EDIS GmbH which is however one LIR
>> i represent.*
>>
>>
>> --
>> William Weber | RIPE: WW | LIR:
>> william@william.si <mailto:william@william.si>
>>
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 21.11.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "H.Lu" <h.lu@anytimechinese.com
>> <mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com>>:
>>
>>> Hi
>>>
>>> We do not want to sue "anybody" here, sorry for mistyping English.
>>>
>>> we followed all the process in the Ripe region, and I personally
>>> involved and participated in the Ripe policy development process,
>>>
>>> To inasset network:
>>>
>>> I wonder how you as single organization define "best interest of ripe
>>> member" and justifying other member's IP usage?
>>> Kind regards
>>>
>>> Lu
>>>
>>> On 2013-11-21, at 下午12:26, "Administration - [ inAsset Networks ]"
>>> <admin@inasset.es <mailto:admin@inasset.es>> wrote:
>>>
>>>>
>>>> Good Afternoon (in Europe)
>>>>
>>>> Mr. Lu, we will follow your activities closely, and see if RIPE NCC
>>>> takes action in the event the use of your assigned space is not in
>>>> the best interest of its members.
>>>>
>>>> For now, we would like to know why you are announcing RIPE NCC space
>>>> in ARIN.
>>>>
>>>> *Administration* - [ inAsset Networks ]
>>>>
>>>> El 21/11/2013, a las 16:02, H.Lu <h.lu@anytimechinese.com
>>>> <mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com>> escribió:
>>>>
>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>
>>>>> What a surprise morning.
>>>>>
>>>>> I think it was talking about me and my company.
>>>>>
>>>>> To clarify few things, the justification process of our application
>>>>> took very long in ripe NCC and I believe ripe NCC investigate about
>>>>> us heavily in the major service we provided at the time of it being
>>>>> justified. and corruption claim are very much inappreicate and I
>>>>> would ask you apologizes to Ripe NCC.
>>>>>
>>>>> Me as individual as been actively involved in the ripe community in
>>>>> past 5 years, and I believe most active member in the list knowing
>>>>> me personally.
>>>>>
>>>>> I wondering where you have the inaccurate income data about me
>>>>> personally and my private company as well. as it can not be obtain
>>>>> legally and the data was not correct. I personally owing quite few
>>>>> companies worldwide but they are all private companies I do not
>>>>> feel the need to share our financial details publicly.
>>>>>
>>>>> Most part of our business are confidential so sorry we can not
>>>>> provide more details here, like every request, Member base are
>>>>> trusting Ripe NCC to make the right decision at the time of
>>>>> application. That is how business really works, only Ripe NCC has
>>>>> rights to getting into confidential area of member's business,
>>>>> otherwise I believe every member would have to publish
>>>>> every detail about their business to the public.
>>>>>
>>>>> And I would ask if you do have more questions for me, as long as
>>>>> it is not confidential, I'd like to share my stories with you.
>>>>> Please do not bother Ripe NCC for this matter any more.
>>>>>
>>>>> At this point, Ripe NCC are just a book keeper for its members and
>>>>> Ripe community, they are not police force, if you do feel we have
>>>>> some unlawful practice--thought I seriously doubt about it, please
>>>>> contact related law enforcement and we are very happy to assist in
>>>>> the matter with them.
>>>>>
>>>>> Last but not least, as I just had phone call with my lawyer,
>>>>> making an criminal charge(corruption) to Ripe NCC, inaccurate
>>>>> publish our private income data in the public space without
>>>>> supporting evidence are very serious offense under european law,
>>>>> although my lawyer strongly suggest him to write the letter, I
>>>>> insists my self to write here just because I would appreciate
>>>>> member's understanding and community's support.
>>>>>
>>>>> Let me know if you still have more questions.
>>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>
>>>>> Lu
>>>>>
>>>>> On 2013-11-21, at 上午11:05, William Weber
>>>>> <ripe-members-discussion@edisglobal.com
>>>>> <mailto:ripe-members-discussion@edisglobal.com>> wrote:
>>>>>
>>>>>> As RIPE seems to have decided that i can be ignored and no one
>>>>>> needs to reply to me i make this public now as threatened to them
>>>>>> before - See Dear Andrew, i don't care what you say - if you don't
>>>>>> reply me with anything useful then i take steps to get others
>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>> This is not the first time i reported a LIR for evaluation and was
>>>>>> ignored.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I waited over a month for any reply and sent multiple follow up
>>>>>> mails, no replies and the ticket is "open" in the Lirportal, now
>>>>>> the last reply i got was again useless and without any interest
>>>>>> (No Andrew, i cannot use the LIR<>LIR report form to report
>>>>>> LIR<>RIPE, i can't even enter that there.)
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Theres some more fun to be had, here's a text i prepared before i
>>>>>> sent my mail to RIPE after some investigations (which merely took
>>>>>> 10 minutes time and a few calls to some associates) - Now, isn't
>>>>>> that proof enough for an evaluation?
>>>>>> I think so and the other LIRs i represent do as well, but make
>>>>>> your own picture.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> --
>>>>>> Today we follow an interesting 'ISP' which is based on a
>>>>>> sole-trader in the Netherlands which managed to have
>>>>>> RIPE/Afrinic/ARIN assign him IPv4 space totaling to a /8:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> His name is Heng Lu, also known as "OutsideHeaven" -
>>>>>> http://outsideheaven.com <http://outsideheaven.com/>
>>>>>> Seemingly based in the Netherlands Lu is of Chinese origin and
>>>>>> does (as far as informations go) not live in Europe at all.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> First being a customer of OVH and having his IP space announced on
>>>>>> OVHs AS now most space seems to be announced by Los Angeles based
>>>>>> ISP Multacom (AS35916).
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A short view on the website shows that no real services are
>>>>>> provided yet massive amounts of IPs are registered to him
>>>>>> personally, him as sole trader or his companies at all RIRs:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 154.80.0.0/12 - Afrinic - 1.048.574 IPs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> This is an AFRINIC net assigned to a company in the Seychelles
>>>>>> ("Abacus (Seychelles) Limited"), the Person handle and mail shows
>>>>>> the connection to OutsideHeaven.
>>>>>> The network itself contains smaller assignments, all with the
>>>>>> descr of "CloudInnovation infrastructure" and various countries
>>>>>> set (AD, SD, YT….), most IPs are not announced at all and seem unused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> A RIPE network from 2012.09 announced by Multacom in LAX outside
>>>>>> of the RIPE region.
>>>>>> Seems unused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> RIPE network dating to 2012.07 (Just 3 months after the /15 was
>>>>>> allocated, exactly the timeframe RIPE required a space to be used
>>>>>> in to get a new one…), announced on OVH.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Yet another RIPE network from 2012.04 (who can spell 'bribe'?)
>>>>>> announced by OVH on France, unused as well.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 46.136.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Allocated 2010.11 - Announced by a datacenter in the Netherlands,
>>>>>> unused.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs
>>>>>>
>>>>>> 2011.04 - Announced in LAX/Multacom.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> List (not complete, there is more smaller assignments on him):
>>>>>> 154.80.0.0/12 - Afrinic - 1.048.574 IPs
>>>>>> 185.2.48.0/22 - RIPE - 1024 IPs - 2012.09
>>>>>> 5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.09
>>>>>> 5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2012.07
>>>>>> 37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.04
>>>>>> 31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2011.04
>>>>>> 46.136.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2010.11
>>>>>> 178.236.224.0/20 - RIPE - 4096 IPs - 2010.06
>>>>>> --
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> William Weber | RIPE Person: WW | LIR: at.edisgmbh (among others)
>>>>>> william@edisglobal.com <mailto:william@edisglobal.com> |
>>>>>> william@william.si <mailto:william@william.si> | http://edis.at
>>>>>> <http://edis.at/> | http://as57169.net <http://as57169.net/>
>>>>>> EDIS GmbH (AS57169) NOC
>>>>>> Maribor, Slovenia
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> *Von: *William Weber <william@edis.at <mailto:william@edis.at>>
>>>>>>> *Betreff: **Aw: NCC#2013100726 Complaint against a LIR*
>>>>>>> *Datum: *09. Oktober 2013 13:18:36 MESZ
>>>>>>> *An: *Andrew de la Haye <andrew@ripe.net <mailto:andrew@ripe.net>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear Andrew,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> And who verified that these 2 analysts were not bribed... i know
>>>>>>> guys buying /12s by bribing AFRINIC officials (in fact, the same
>>>>>>> LIR as this mail is about "bought" space there also,
>>>>>>> 154.80.0.0/12) and this isn't unheard in LACNIC/APNIC either, so
>>>>>>> what tells me RIPE did/does not do the same...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Sorry, but this is not really any better now:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This guy "accidentally" sits in Amsterdam as well, not even far
>>>>>>> from you, being Chinese(!) with barely 3000EUR income reports
>>>>>>> filled 2012/2013 in the Netherlands for his BVs and his sole
>>>>>>> trader status and has one of the largest total
>>>>>>> allocations in the entire RIPE region?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How can he announce 2(!) *ENTIRE* /15 from an ARIN ASN in Los
>>>>>>> Angeles while i and others got contacted by RIPE about a measly
>>>>>>> /24 on an ARIN ASN?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Why do his assignments make no sense, look auto generated and
>>>>>>> never contain any end-user data? Why was this not verified at
>>>>>>> add-alloc?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> How does he use over a million IPs on a 100Mbit uplink to his
>>>>>>> upstream provider?
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This all is still very fishy and not really impressive...
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards,
>>>>>>> William Weber
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> EDIS GmbH
>>>>>>> NOC
>>>>>>> Hauptplatz 3/3
>>>>>>> 8010 Graz
>>>>>>> Austria
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>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> phone: +43 316 827 500
>>>>>>> fax: +43 316 827 500 777
>>>>>>> http://www.edis.at <http://www.edis.at/>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This message was sent by EDIS GmbH, it is STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
>>>>>>> and is solely for the individual or organisation to whom it is
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>>>>>>> hereby notified that any dissemination, distribution or copying
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>>>>>>> your computer.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 08.10.2013 um 11:55 schrieb Andrew de la Haye <andrew@ripe.net
>>>>>>> <mailto:andrew@ripe.net>>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear William,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> We take your allegations very seriously. As such, your ticket
>>>>>>>> has been escalated to me by Andrea Cima, manager of the RIPE
>>>>>>>> NCC's Registration Services Department.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Before the RIPE NCC reached the last /8 of IPv4 address space,
>>>>>>>> we implemented a temporarily enhanced allocation procedure to
>>>>>>>> ensure a fair, neutral and well-documented IPv4 run-out.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This procedure was communicated to our membership and community
>>>>>>>> at meetings, via the Address Policy Working Group Mailing List,
>>>>>>>> and via our website. You can find the complete description at:
>>>>>>>> https://ripe65.ripe.net/presentations/204-last_slash_8_NCC_Services.pdf
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Measures were taken to ensure our members' needs were filled on
>>>>>>>> a first-come, first-served basis, and to ensure that we followed
>>>>>>>> due diligence. Each request was evaluated by two IP Resource
>>>>>>>> Analysts. Furthermore, all large requests (/15 PA or /18 PI or
>>>>>>>> more) were rigorously evaluated by Registration Services
>>>>>>>> Management, checked for policy compliance by our Policy
>>>>>>>> Development Officer, and were finally approved by two RIPE NCC
>>>>>>>> Senior Managers.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> The IPv4 requests you have listed followed this process
>>>>>>>> completely and, based on the information we received, were
>>>>>>>> entirely justified.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Andrew de la Haye
>>>>>>>> Chief Operations Officer
>>>>>>>> RIPE NCC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Singel 258
>>>>>>>> 1016 AB Amsterdam
>>>>>>>> the Netherlands
>>>>>>>> andrew@ripe.net <mailto:andrew@ripe.net>
>>>>>>>> tel: +31 20 535 4444
>>>>>>>> fax: +31 20 535 4445
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Am 07.10.2013 um 14:29 schrieb RIPE NCC Hostmaster
>>>>>> <hostmaster@ripe.net <mailto:hostmaster@ripe.net>>:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Dear William,
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As requested I have escalated your complaint to the RIPE NCC Senior
>>>>>>> Management.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> They will come back to you ASAP.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>> Andrea Cima
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RIPE NCC
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:11:37 +0200, William Weber wrote:
>>>>>>>> Dear Andrea,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> So if there is no proof for a bribe you do as it does not exist
>>>>>>>> at all?
>>>>>>>> Why did no one tell me this before, i would have come with a
>>>>>>>> suitcase of cash to AMS... Seriously, this statement is worse
>>>>>>>> than what 3rd world dictators state all the time about bribery...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Considering that RIPE members have no access to other RIPE
>>>>>>>> members add-alloc (or any other) forms it is also entirely
>>>>>>>> *impossible* to prove lies in them (hey, how should i do that if
>>>>>>>> i can't read them at all?) - Thus it clearly is your obligation
>>>>>>>> to verify this claims OR provide the accuser with access to a
>>>>>>>> system to verify it himself.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> It is by itself alone VERY suspicious that the single largest
>>>>>>>> allocation for weeks is allocated 8 days before the last /8 is
>>>>>>>> reached to an unknown sole trader without any business.... yes,
>>>>>>>> i think i have enough 'proof' to get this verified by the RIPE,
>>>>>>>> please escalate it to whoever you think is appropriate or i will
>>>>>>>> do so myself today at 00:00 via the RIPE mailing list to ALL
>>>>>>>> members.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards,
>>>>>>>> William Weber
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> EDIS GmbH
>>>>>>>> NOC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 04.10.2013 um 15:52 schrieb RIPE NCC Hostmaster
>>>>>>>> <hostmaster@ripe.net <mailto:hostmaster@ripe.net>>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear William,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> All allocations are issued based on RIPE policy and
>>>>>>>>> documentation that
>>>>>>>>> demonstrates the need for those resources. The information
>>>>>>>>> provided by
>>>>>>>>> members is confidential and cannot be shared with other members.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you have proof that a member has provided false information
>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>> RIPE NCC, please provide us this proof. Based on this we can then
>>>>>>>>> start evaluating the claims and take appropriate actions. The same
>>>>>>>>> counts for your accusation of a RIPE NCC emloyee having received a
>>>>>>>>> bribe, which is a very serious accusation, that we do not take
>>>>>>>>> lightly.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Finally it seems there is a misunderstanding about the date on
>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>> the RIPE NCC has reached its last /8 policy. The correct date is 14
>>>>>>>>> September 2012. Please find the official announcement at:
>>>>>>>>> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2012-September/001825.html
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andrea Cima
>>>>>>>>> Registration Services Manager
>>>>>>>>> RIPE NCC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:49:32 +0200, William Weber wrote:
>>>>>>>>>> x-ncc-regid: at.edisgmbh (and
>>>>>>>>>> at.<removed>, li.<removed>, li.<removed>, plus representing
>>>>>>>>>> <removed> and <removed>)
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Yes, i have to complain again to evaluate someone....
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> LIR is nl.outsideheaven
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> I am 100% sure that the allocation of his netblocks have
>>>>>>>>>> either used false data in the add-alloc forms, plain lies or
>>>>>>>>>> bribes (which i see as the most likely) - His company has no
>>>>>>>>>> trading activity in any country (verified with Dutch and
>>>>>>>>>> Chinese tax authorities) and nothing that would justify the
>>>>>>>>>> usage of this amounts of IPv4 space.
>>>>>>>>>> His usage of some of them also violates RIPE rules, most are
>>>>>>>>>> for example not even announced inside the RIPE region but
>>>>>>>>>> originate from AS35916 (Multacom in Los Angeles, USA) solely.
>>>>>>>>>> The assignments while RIPE already reached the last /8 are
>>>>>>>>>> very questionable as well and overturning a members and board
>>>>>>>>>> decision.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 185.2.48.0/22 - RIPE - 1024 IPs - 2012.09
>>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.09
>>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE
>>>>>>>>>> -> How was he able to obtain a /15 5 months AFTER RIPE reached
>>>>>>>>>> the last /8?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2012.07
>>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE
>>>>>>>>>> -> How was he able to obtain a /16 3 months AFTER RIPE reached
>>>>>>>>>> the last /8?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.04
>>>>>>>>>> -> How was he able to obtain a /15 1 month AFTER RIPE reached
>>>>>>>>>> the last /8?
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> 31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2011.04
>>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>> William Weber
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>> EDIS GmbH
>>>>>>>>>> NOC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
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