What kind of „conspiracy theory”? I share the statement from 30.04.2024 from “Simon-Jan Haytink, RIPE NCC, CFO”. He is telling this, not me.. You are not yourself here. You are talking on behalf of de.telekom here. This is not a community discussion list, this is a LIR discussion list, as I know, you can subscribe it in LIR account only. I understand, why telekom and other ISPs are afraid of a charging scheme like ARIN: https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/ Yes, I want the Telekom to pay more, for the resource it uses (Telekom is holding more than 3% of the RIPE NCC resources).. RIPE NCC is not only a “member-based organization”. It is a non-profit member-based organization, who is responsible for assigning IP addresses. Commonly used service of the RIPE NCC for more than 95% of the members is the resources, nothing else! That’s it. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards Murat TERZIOGLU PREBITS Bochumer Str. 20 44866 Bochum Deutschland Telefon: 0234/58825994 Telefax: 0234/58825995 <http://www.prebits.de/> www.prebits.de <mailto:info@prebits.de> info@prebits.de USt-ID: DE315418902 Von: Sebastian-Becker@telekom.de <Sebastian-Becker@telekom.de> Gesendet: Donnerstag, 16. Mai 2024 10:26 An: m.terzioglu@prebits.de; nd@syndicat.com; members-discuss@ripe.net Betreff: AW: [members-discuss] How can I vote against Charging Scheme A, B and C Speaking for myself: Now we're into conspiracy theories, right? Maybe one should think about what it means to have a member-based organization and contribute to it in a productive way. And to be clear: I strongly support what Gert D., Jan Z. and Sebastian W. have already written. And yes, I'm pretty sure you'll put it back to my affiliation. Have fun. Greetings, Sebastian Von: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> > im Auftrag von m.terzioglu@prebits.de <mailto:m.terzioglu@prebits.de> <m.terzioglu@prebits.de <mailto:m.terzioglu@prebits.de> > Datum: Donnerstag, 16. Mai 2024 um 10:16 An: 'Niels Dettenbach' <nd@syndicat.com <mailto:nd@syndicat.com> >, members-discuss@ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net> <members-discuss@ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net> > Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] How can I vote against Charging Scheme A, B and C Yes, and some of the friends from NCC also shared, if they make the fees higher for the large resource holder, that they would go to other LIRs 😊 And the large LIRs from our community think the same for the small LIRs "if you are not happy, go away!"... Interesting... ARIN is stronger than RIPE NCC I thing, because they were succeed to charge big players a bit more as the smaller one at least. I don’t want to imagine the other options... Stable future is not coming in this way unfortunately.. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards Murat TERZIOGLU PREBITS