Daniel Thanks, that's a good data point to have. On 22/09/16 19:16, Daniel Pearson wrote:
Nigel,
Thanks for the information. I've read a lot of the plan and have a couple of questions if you feel inclined to provide some more insight.
According to what I can see, the budget is split into several parts for training. A general 'overall' training budget and then a much smaller budget for IPv6 Support. Based on this document in particular, it's hard to say exactly how much of the larger training budget is spent specifically on IPv6, but it does show that the dedicated "IPv6 Support" budget is quite small, roughly 171,000 EUR.
It seems primarily tied to MENOG sponsored IPv6 Roadshows. The rest seems split into the ENOG region, mostly with past efforts being to cross train folks with the idea that they will help present more road shows.
The MENOG and ENOG regions are where we concentrate a lot of the effort partly because we get a lot of support from governmental organisations there and also because they are, mainly, the regions which have less penetration of IPv6. We've been doing IPv6 training in Western Europe for a long time but we've found that the issue there isn't so much a training one but an unwillingness to invest resources in pushing IPv6. In a sense, the rising price of IPv4 is helping because it is at last becoming apparent to those holding the budgets that hanging onto IPv4 has a cost, and it's one that is rising as time goes by.
The final split in the budget is the online resources for IPv6.
Can you say how much of the training budget applies to IPv6 in general?
Offhand, I don't know but I can get the information.
Any plans to expand the IPv6 roadshows outside of ENOG and MENOG?
If that's what the members want then we'll do it.
My personal opinion is the budget of 171,000 EUR for IPv6 Support, for the size of RIPE, is quite small. I would be interested to see that increased quite a bit to allow for more online resources, training, webinars and potentially even access to professionals that, while not providing support per say, could help guide folks unfamiliar with some of the IPv6 pitfalls in the right direction.
Again, thanks for your input. We can certainly look at adding more Ipv6 training to the activity plan. All the best Nigel
Daniel~
On 09/22/2016 12:47 PM, Nigel Titley wrote:
Daniel (and others)
On 22/09/16 18:32, Daniel Pearson wrote:
Tim,
I would say you get a gold star for recommending something feasible and realistic. RIPE already had a budget excess of over 5 Mil EUR last year. I would not be opposed if RIPE was tasked with creating a department to help with IPv6 education through programs like that. Could I respectfully suggest that you take a look at the RIPE NCC activity plan which tells you exactly on what and how much the RIPE NCC is planning to spend next year. It already spends a lot on outreach and it continues to spend a lot on IPv6 education. It's been doing this for many, many years. Start by looking at last year's plan, this year's will be out very soon.
Have a look and comment on it.
All the best
Nigel Chairman RIPE NCC Board
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