Hi Adrian, The challenge here is that there is no such switch to turn off the ipv4 routing (or any routing), and making it happens requires a global consensus or a major resource turning off ipv4 (Facebook or Google for instance). If we don't have that consensus, we are simply disconnecting ourselves from the internet. Daniel Inviato dal mio BlackBerry, il dispositivo mobile più sicuro Messaggio originale Da: Adrian.Bolster@purebroadband.net Inviato: 3 maggio 2018 8:45 AM A: raymond.jetten@elisa.fi Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net Oggetto: Re: [members-discuss] Multiple LIR account mergers Hi Ray, I am interested in how things can work better for the community as a whole. It would be preferential, in my opinion, to turn off IPv4 routing on the Internet on the day that the last remnants are expected to be exhausted. As controversial as that is, it will properly encourage migration. We’ve all had plenty of time to lab and eek out the incompatible devices. We’ve all had opportunity to dual stack. We’ve all got plenty of IPv6 space. What’s stopping us? Adrian. Sent from my iPhone
On 3 May 2018, at 07:31, Jetten Raymond <raymond.jetten@elisa.fi> wrote:
Hi Sebastian, All
Even if you would have an archivist, the problem is that some people just don't read all that. Then there are a few folks that are only interested in how things would work better for themselves, not for the community.
Rgds,
Ray
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-----Original Message----- From: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Sebastian Wiesinger Sent: 2. toukokuuta 2018 15:47 To: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Multiple LIR account mergers
* Adrian Bolster <Adrian.Bolster@purebroadband.net> [2018-05-02 12:53]:
The current rules are a good middle ground, however, as a relatively new ISP we can only access one /22 per LIR. Newer entities, such as us, do not have legacy IPv4 space which immediately inhibits growth and competition in the ISP marketplace.
Hi Adrian,
this was discussed in the address-policy working group many, maaaany times. Please read the list archive for all the arguments and counterarguments. There is simply no way to change the fact: We're OUT of IPv4.
Maybe an RIPE archivist wouldn't be such a bad idea after all.
Regards
Sebastian
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