Hi there,

I see here an evident issue. You see, first of all, ENOG is a community, not an event or a trademark. And you cannot force somebody to be a part of the community. Like, operators from Russia voted that operators from Ukraine have to be friends with them, or what?

What we are discussing here is the question, does the joint regional community of the network operators still exist? Not each operator itself, or the industry in general, but exactly the community. And I have strong doubts that it does.

On 4 Mar 2022, at 21:06, Denys Fedoryshchenko <nuclearcat@nuclearcat.com> wrote:

If there are doubts about the viability of the existence of ENOG,
there are proper, democratic voting procedures.
When individuals try to decide the fate of a large community,
reinforcing the importance of their decision with their official position
or/and personal circumstances, this is not right at all.

Considering that many of the people are in a difficult emotional state
and a state of great stress, which interfere with their ability
making proper decisions, i propose to vote on this matter in the fall.
I hope by this time the events will have settled down.

Peace for all, NO TO WAR.


On 2022-03-04 00:43, Töma Gavrichenkov wrote:
Peace,
(which is my usual greeting message, always was, and will ever be, —
because the only thing I've always valued the most is peace)
As the Programme Committee Chair of the Eurasian Network Operators
Group (ENOG), I, hereby, with all due respect, request that the RIPE
Executive Board formally dissolve ENOG and cancel all the potential
future meetings indefinitely.
Rationale: ENOG was founded in 2011 per the decision of the RIPE
Executive Board, and it was assumed to be incorporating Ukrainian,
Russian, Belarusian, Armenian, Azerbaijanian, and many other regional
communities in the hope of building a better shared Internet space
among the communities.
In view of the recent events (if not even the prior events), the said
"ENOG community" does not exist anymore, and in no way it could be
clear to the Programme Committee how to arrange a programme for all
the distinct and divided communities colloqually recognized as ENOG at
the time.
Technically, under normal circumstances, a request like this should've
gone through a voting process in the PC; however, we currently have
several PC members under ongoing _missile attacks_, and I therefore
don't believe it is sane to arrange any vote in the PC.
Additionally, at the moment, being a Russian citizen, I don't believe
I should assume there's a consensus in the entire RIPE Service Region
to still invest trust in me, without further due diligence, to hold
any official community position in the RIPE community; therefore, I
hereby step down as the PC Chair.
It's now up to the members of the RIPE NCC Executive Board to decide
on future actions, and I urge the RIPE NCC Executive Board to act.  It
is entirely up to the RIPE NCC Executive Board to consider any future
alignments to replace ENOG.
Stay safe.
--
Töma
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