21 Nov
2013
21 Nov
'13
6:07 p.m.
Sascha,
We do not have any relation with the complainer, and we would appreciate you avoid to make such suggestions.
If you want to contact us, you can find our phone number and e-mail addresses at RIPE NCC Whois DB.
Thank you.
Administration - [ inAsset Networks ]
El 21/11/2013, a las 17:40, Sascha E. Pollok <sp@iphh.net> escribió:
> +1. This looks clearly personal. Especially those half-anonymous
> complains ("Administration - [ inAsset Networks ]") look strange to me
> (no offense). And William, thank you for sharing all the details about
> your personal life (Who is more evil?) - but probably most people here
> do not find it interesting (just an assumption).
>
> "Administration - [ inAsset Networks ]", William, did you two somehow
> organize to get together today to start this? I dont need an answer.
>
> Focus on facts please and keep the noise low. Thank you.
>
> The Management.
>
> Am 21.11.2013 17:21, schrieb Christian Hoffmann [sfip84 Hosting und mehr
> UG]:
>> Hey,
>>
>> am i the only person having the feeling that there is a private issue
>> going on here?
>> I mean come on, this guy has the bigger one, i am jalous too, but as
>> part of the RIPE NCC i think i really should trust the persons working
>> for the NCC.
>> For my understanding with every new allocation (and he has a lot..)
>> there is an Audit going on.
>>
>> Ok, he is announcing part of the networks outside the RIPE Area, but for
>> my understanding that is ok as long as the company and the core network
>> is based in Europe. Or did i missed something.
>>
>>
>>
>> Am 21.11.2013 17:12, schrieb William Weber:
>>> Hello together,
>>>
>>> So so so, finally he can reply - Hello there Mr. Lu, why were my
>>> previous contact tries ignored?
>>>
>>> I was in fact *AT YOUR ADDRESS* in Holland in 2012, nobody there - I
>>> would have someone sent to your address in China also, but that one is
>>> unclear described.
>>>
>>>> I wondering where you have the inaccurate income data about me
>>> personally and my private company as well
>>> I do not need to share any sources (what is this, the PLA?), all data
>>> was obtained legally in my country of residence (Slovenia) and Austria
>>> - I can not vouch for correctness but in the past it was usually near
>>> the expected.
>>> Not like your data is secret in the Netherlands.
>>>> making an criminal charge(corruption) to Ripe NCC, inaccurate publish
>>>> our private income data in the public space without supporting
>>>> evidence are very serious offense under european law, although my
>>>> lawyer strongly suggest him to write the letter, I insists my self to
>>>> write here just because I would appreciate member's understanding and
>>>> community's support.
>>>
>>> I'm not sure what gives you the idea that Dutch law would be
>>> applicable to me in Slovenia/Austaira (or at all, considering that
>>> Slovenia/Austria as per constitution cannot extradict citizens)?
>>>
>>> The statement of mine - *POSSIBLE* bribe - Is fully legal to make,
>>> even the implication of it would be - The RIPE ticket system is also
>>> not the public and neither is the mailing list, it is a closed system.
>>>
>>> You can sue me all you want, i have not much to loose currently, and
>>> once cleared move to Israel which does neither extradict nor care much
>>> about Europe.
>>> The Austrian police confiscated my hardware 2012 and 2013, the
>>> Austrian police investigates my financial transactions, the Polish
>>> police wants to see me in jail (and has an order for that), Hongkong
>>> authorities are not amused, my phones and internet is taped, i am
>>> being followed by the Austrian police.
>>>
>>> Just google my name and add "tor" and you get an image, you (and no
>>> one else) can threaten me with "law" anymore.
>>>
>>> I will reply more lenghty later, because even though the Austrian
>>> government does not like me they still send me invitations to
>>> broadband expansion forums and force me to attend and speak.
>>>
>>> Also, most here agree with me and you CLEARLY violate RIPE policies
>>> with the ARIN routing and others - So *you* are the one that should
>>> explain himself, not me.
>>>
>>> This is also a note: *The statements here are fully personal or
>>> statements of my own companies, not EDIS GmbH which is however one LIR
>>> i represent.*
>>>
>>>
>>> --
>>> William Weber | RIPE: WW | LIR:
>>> william@william.si <mailto:william@william.si>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> Am 21.11.2013 um 16:44 schrieb "H.Lu" <h.lu@anytimechinese.com
>>> <mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com>>:
>>>
>>>> Hi
>>>>
>>>> We do not want to sue "anybody" here, sorry for mistyping English.
>>>>
>>>> we followed all the process in the Ripe region, and I personally
>>>> involved and participated in the Ripe policy development process,
>>>>
>>>> To inasset network:
>>>>
>>>> I wonder how you as single organization define "best interest of ripe
>>>> member" and justifying other member's IP usage?
>>>> Kind regards
>>>>
>>>> Lu
>>>>
>>>> On 2013-11-21, at 下午12:26, "Administration - [ inAsset Networks ]"
>>>> <admin@inasset.es <mailto:admin@inasset.es>> wrote:
>>>>
>>>>>
>>>>> Good Afternoon (in Europe)
>>>>>
>>>>> Mr. Lu, we will follow your activities closely, and see if RIPE NCC
>>>>> takes action in the event the use of your assigned space is not in
>>>>> the best interest of its members.
>>>>>
>>>>> For now, we would like to know why you are announcing RIPE NCC space
>>>>> in ARIN.
>>>>>
>>>>> *Administration* - [ inAsset Networks ]
>>>>>
>>>>> El 21/11/2013, a las 16:02, H.Lu <h.lu@anytimechinese.com
>>>>> <mailto:h.lu@anytimechinese.com>> escribió:
>>>>>
>>>>>> Hi:
>>>>>>
>>>>>> What a surprise morning.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I think it was talking about me and my company.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> To clarify few things, the justification process of our application
>>>>>> took very long in ripe NCC and I believe ripe NCC investigate about
>>>>>> us heavily in the major service we provided at the time of it being
>>>>>> justified. and corruption claim are very much inappreicate and I
>>>>>> would ask you apologizes to Ripe NCC.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Me as individual as been actively involved in the ripe community in
>>>>>> past 5 years, and I believe most active member in the list knowing
>>>>>> me personally.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> I wondering where you have the inaccurate income data about me
>>>>>> personally and my private company as well. as it can not be obtain
>>>>>> legally and the data was not correct. I personally owing quite few
>>>>>> companies worldwide but they are all private companies I do not
>>>>>> feel the need to share our financial details publicly.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Most part of our business are confidential so sorry we can not
>>>>>> provide more details here, like every request, Member base are
>>>>>> trusting Ripe NCC to make the right decision at the time of
>>>>>> application. That is how business really works, only Ripe NCC has
>>>>>> rights to getting into confidential area of member's business,
>>>>>> otherwise I believe every member would have to publish
>>>>>> every detail about their business to the public.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> And I would ask if you do have more questions for me, as long as
>>>>>> it is not confidential, I'd like to share my stories with you.
>>>>>> Please do not bother Ripe NCC for this matter any more.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> At this point, Ripe NCC are just a book keeper for its members and
>>>>>> Ripe community, they are not police force, if you do feel we have
>>>>>> some unlawful practice--thought I seriously doubt about it, please
>>>>>> contact related law enforcement and we are very happy to assist in
>>>>>> the matter with them.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Last but not least, as I just had phone call with my lawyer,
>>>>>> making an criminal charge(corruption) to Ripe NCC, inaccurate
>>>>>> publish our private income data in the public space without
>>>>>> supporting evidence are very serious offense under european law,
>>>>>> although my lawyer strongly suggest him to write the letter, I
>>>>>> insists my self to write here just because I would appreciate
>>>>>> member's understanding and community's support.
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Let me know if you still have more questions.
>>>>>>
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>
>>>>>> Lu
>>>>>>
>>>>>> On 2013-11-21, at 上午11:05, William Weber
>>>>>> <ripe-members-discussion@edisglobal.com
>>>>>> <mailto:ripe-members-discussion@edisglobal.com>> wrote:
>>>>>>
>>>>>>> As RIPE seems to have decided that i can be ignored and no one
>>>>>>> needs to reply to me i make this public now as threatened to them
>>>>>>> before - See Dear Andrew, i don't care what you say - if you don't
>>>>>>> reply me with anything useful then i take steps to get others
>>>>>>> involved.
>>>>>>> This is not the first time i reported a LIR for evaluation and was
>>>>>>> ignored.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> I waited over a month for any reply and sent multiple follow up
>>>>>>> mails, no replies and the ticket is "open" in the Lirportal, now
>>>>>>> the last reply i got was again useless and without any interest
>>>>>>> (No Andrew, i cannot use the LIR<>LIR report form to report
>>>>>>> LIR<>RIPE, i can't even enter that there.)
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Theres some more fun to be had, here's a text i prepared before i
>>>>>>> sent my mail to RIPE after some investigations (which merely took
>>>>>>> 10 minutes time and a few calls to some associates) - Now, isn't
>>>>>>> that proof enough for an evaluation?
>>>>>>> I think so and the other LIRs i represent do as well, but make
>>>>>>> your own picture.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>> Today we follow an interesting 'ISP' which is based on a
>>>>>>> sole-trader in the Netherlands which managed to have
>>>>>>> RIPE/Afrinic/ARIN assign him IPv4 space totaling to a /8:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> His name is Heng Lu, also known as "OutsideHeaven" -
>>>>>>> http://outsideheaven.com <http://outsideheaven.com/>
>>>>>>> Seemingly based in the Netherlands Lu is of Chinese origin and
>>>>>>> does (as far as informations go) not live in Europe at all.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> First being a customer of OVH and having his IP space announced on
>>>>>>> OVHs AS now most space seems to be announced by Los Angeles based
>>>>>>> ISP Multacom (AS35916).
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A short view on the website shows that no real services are
>>>>>>> provided yet massive amounts of IPs are registered to him
>>>>>>> personally, him as sole trader or his companies at all RIRs:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 154.80.0.0/12 - Afrinic - 1.048.574 IPs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> This is an AFRINIC net assigned to a company in the Seychelles
>>>>>>> ("Abacus (Seychelles) Limited"), the Person handle and mail shows
>>>>>>> the connection to OutsideHeaven.
>>>>>>> The network itself contains smaller assignments, all with the
>>>>>>> descr of "CloudInnovation infrastructure" and various countries
>>>>>>> set (AD, SD, YT….), most IPs are not announced at all and seem unused.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> A RIPE network from 2012.09 announced by Multacom in LAX outside
>>>>>>> of the RIPE region.
>>>>>>> Seems unused.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> RIPE network dating to 2012.07 (Just 3 months after the /15 was
>>>>>>> allocated, exactly the timeframe RIPE required a space to be used
>>>>>>> in to get a new one…), announced on OVH.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Yet another RIPE network from 2012.04 (who can spell 'bribe'?)
>>>>>>> announced by OVH on France, unused as well.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 46.136.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Allocated 2010.11 - Announced by a datacenter in the Netherlands,
>>>>>>> unused.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65000 IPs
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> 2011.04 - Announced in LAX/Multacom.
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> List (not complete, there is more smaller assignments on him):
>>>>>>> 154.80.0.0/12 - Afrinic - 1.048.574 IPs
>>>>>>> 185.2.48.0/22 - RIPE - 1024 IPs - 2012.09
>>>>>>> 5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.09
>>>>>>> 5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2012.07
>>>>>>> 37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.04
>>>>>>> 31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2011.04
>>>>>>> 46.136.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2010.11
>>>>>>> 178.236.224.0/20 - RIPE - 4096 IPs - 2010.06
>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> William Weber | RIPE Person: WW | LIR: at.edisgmbh (among others)
>>>>>>> william@edisglobal.com <mailto:william@edisglobal.com> |
>>>>>>> william@william.si <mailto:william@william.si> | http://edis.at
>>>>>>> <http://edis.at/> | http://as57169.net <http://as57169.net/>
>>>>>>> EDIS GmbH (AS57169) NOC
>>>>>>> Maribor, Slovenia
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Anfang der weitergeleiteten Nachricht:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> *Von: *William Weber <william@edis.at <mailto:william@edis.at>>
>>>>>>>> *Betreff: **Aw: NCC#2013100726 Complaint against a LIR*
>>>>>>>> *Datum: *09. Oktober 2013 13:18:36 MESZ
>>>>>>>> *An: *Andrew de la Haye <andrew@ripe.net <mailto:andrew@ripe.net>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear Andrew,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> And who verified that these 2 analysts were not bribed... i know
>>>>>>>> guys buying /12s by bribing AFRINIC officials (in fact, the same
>>>>>>>> LIR as this mail is about "bought" space there also,
>>>>>>>> 154.80.0.0/12) and this isn't unheard in LACNIC/APNIC either, so
>>>>>>>> what tells me RIPE did/does not do the same...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Sorry, but this is not really any better now:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This guy "accidentally" sits in Amsterdam as well, not even far
>>>>>>>> from you, being Chinese(!) with barely 3000EUR income reports
>>>>>>>> filled 2012/2013 in the Netherlands for his BVs and his sole
>>>>>>>> trader status and has one of the largest total
>>>>>>>> allocations in the entire RIPE region?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How can he announce 2(!) *ENTIRE* /15 from an ARIN ASN in Los
>>>>>>>> Angeles while i and others got contacted by RIPE about a measly
>>>>>>>> /24 on an ARIN ASN?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Why do his assignments make no sense, look auto generated and
>>>>>>>> never contain any end-user data? Why was this not verified at
>>>>>>>> add-alloc?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> How does he use over a million IPs on a 100Mbit uplink to his
>>>>>>>> upstream provider?
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This all is still very fishy and not really impressive...
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards,
>>>>>>>> William Weber
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>> EDIS GmbH
>>>>>>>> NOC
>>>>>>>> Hauptplatz 3/3
>>>>>>>> 8010 Graz
>>>>>>>> Austria
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> phone: +43 316 827 500
>>>>>>>> fax: +43 316 827 500 777
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>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> This message was sent by EDIS GmbH, it is STRICTLY CONFIDENTIAL
>>>>>>>> and is solely for the individual or organisation to whom it is
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>>>>>>>> your computer.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Am 08.10.2013 um 11:55 schrieb Andrew de la Haye <andrew@ripe.net
>>>>>>>> <mailto:andrew@ripe.net>>:
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Dear William,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> We take your allegations very seriously. As such, your ticket
>>>>>>>>> has been escalated to me by Andrea Cima, manager of the RIPE
>>>>>>>>> NCC's Registration Services Department.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Before the RIPE NCC reached the last /8 of IPv4 address space,
>>>>>>>>> we implemented a temporarily enhanced allocation procedure to
>>>>>>>>> ensure a fair, neutral and well-documented IPv4 run-out.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> This procedure was communicated to our membership and community
>>>>>>>>> at meetings, via the Address Policy Working Group Mailing List,
>>>>>>>>> and via our website. You can find the complete description at:
>>>>>>>>> https://ripe65.ripe.net/presentations/204-last_slash_8_NCC_Services.pdf
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Measures were taken to ensure our members' needs were filled on
>>>>>>>>> a first-come, first-served basis, and to ensure that we followed
>>>>>>>>> due diligence. Each request was evaluated by two IP Resource
>>>>>>>>> Analysts. Furthermore, all large requests (/15 PA or /18 PI or
>>>>>>>>> more) were rigorously evaluated by Registration Services
>>>>>>>>> Management, checked for policy compliance by our Policy
>>>>>>>>> Development Officer, and were finally approved by two RIPE NCC
>>>>>>>>> Senior Managers.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> The IPv4 requests you have listed followed this process
>>>>>>>>> completely and, based on the information we received, were
>>>>>>>>> entirely justified.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> If you have any further questions, please feel free to contact me.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Kind regards
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Andrew de la Haye
>>>>>>>>> Chief Operations Officer
>>>>>>>>> RIPE NCC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Singel 258
>>>>>>>>> 1016 AB Amsterdam
>>>>>>>>> the Netherlands
>>>>>>>>> andrew@ripe.net <mailto:andrew@ripe.net>
>>>>>>>>> tel: +31 20 535 4444
>>>>>>>>> fax: +31 20 535 4445
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>> Am 07.10.2013 um 14:29 schrieb RIPE NCC Hostmaster
>>>>>>> <hostmaster@ripe.net <mailto:hostmaster@ripe.net>>:
>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Dear William,
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> As requested I have escalated your complaint to the RIPE NCC Senior
>>>>>>>> Management.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> They will come back to you ASAP.
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> Best regards,
>>>>>>>> Andrea Cima
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> RIPE NCC
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>> On Fri, 4 Oct 2013 16:11:37 +0200, William Weber wrote:
>>>>>>>>> Dear Andrea,
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> So if there is no proof for a bribe you do as it does not exist
>>>>>>>>> at all?
>>>>>>>>> Why did no one tell me this before, i would have come with a
>>>>>>>>> suitcase of cash to AMS... Seriously, this statement is worse
>>>>>>>>> than what 3rd world dictators state all the time about bribery...
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Considering that RIPE members have no access to other RIPE
>>>>>>>>> members add-alloc (or any other) forms it is also entirely
>>>>>>>>> *impossible* to prove lies in them (hey, how should i do that if
>>>>>>>>> i can't read them at all?) - Thus it clearly is your obligation
>>>>>>>>> to verify this claims OR provide the accuser with access to a
>>>>>>>>> system to verify it himself.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> It is by itself alone VERY suspicious that the single largest
>>>>>>>>> allocation for weeks is allocated 8 days before the last /8 is
>>>>>>>>> reached to an unknown sole trader without any business.... yes,
>>>>>>>>> i think i have enough 'proof' to get this verified by the RIPE,
>>>>>>>>> please escalate it to whoever you think is appropriate or i will
>>>>>>>>> do so myself today at 00:00 via the RIPE mailing list to ALL
>>>>>>>>> members.
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards,
>>>>>>>>> William Weber
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>> EDIS GmbH
>>>>>>>>> NOC
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>> Am 04.10.2013 um 15:52 schrieb RIPE NCC Hostmaster
>>>>>>>>> <hostmaster@ripe.net <mailto:hostmaster@ripe.net>>:
>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Dear William,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> All allocations are issued based on RIPE policy and
>>>>>>>>>> documentation that
>>>>>>>>>> demonstrates the need for those resources. The information
>>>>>>>>>> provided by
>>>>>>>>>> members is confidential and cannot be shared with other members.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> If you have proof that a member has provided false information
>>>>>>>>>> to the
>>>>>>>>>> RIPE NCC, please provide us this proof. Based on this we can then
>>>>>>>>>> start evaluating the claims and take appropriate actions. The same
>>>>>>>>>> counts for your accusation of a RIPE NCC emloyee having received a
>>>>>>>>>> bribe, which is a very serious accusation, that we do not take
>>>>>>>>>> lightly.
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Finally it seems there is a misunderstanding about the date on
>>>>>>>>>> which
>>>>>>>>>> the RIPE NCC has reached its last /8 policy. The correct date is 14
>>>>>>>>>> September 2012. Please find the official announcement at:
>>>>>>>>>> http://www.ripe.net/ripe/mail/archives/ncc-services-wg/2012-September/001825.html
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Kind regards,
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> Andrea Cima
>>>>>>>>>> Registration Services Manager
>>>>>>>>>> RIPE NCC
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>> On Thu, 3 Oct 2013 13:49:32 +0200, William Weber wrote:
>>>>>>>>>>> x-ncc-regid: at.edisgmbh (and
>>>>>>>>>>> at.<removed>, li.<removed>, li.<removed>, plus representing
>>>>>>>>>>> <removed> and <removed>)
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Yes, i have to complain again to evaluate someone....
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> LIR is nl.outsideheaven
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> I am 100% sure that the allocation of his netblocks have
>>>>>>>>>>> either used false data in the add-alloc forms, plain lies or
>>>>>>>>>>> bribes (which i see as the most likely) - His company has no
>>>>>>>>>>> trading activity in any country (verified with Dutch and
>>>>>>>>>>> Chinese tax authorities) and nothing that would justify the
>>>>>>>>>>> usage of this amounts of IPv4 space.
>>>>>>>>>>> His usage of some of them also violates RIPE rules, most are
>>>>>>>>>>> for example not even announced inside the RIPE region but
>>>>>>>>>>> originate from AS35916 (Multacom in Los Angeles, USA) solely.
>>>>>>>>>>> The assignments while RIPE already reached the last /8 are
>>>>>>>>>>> very questionable as well and overturning a members and board
>>>>>>>>>>> decision.
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 185.2.48.0/22 - RIPE - 1024 IPs - 2012.09
>>>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 5.224.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.09
>>>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE
>>>>>>>>>>> -> How was he able to obtain a /15 5 months AFTER RIPE reached
>>>>>>>>>>> the last /8?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 5.132.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2012.07
>>>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE
>>>>>>>>>>> -> How was he able to obtain a /16 3 months AFTER RIPE reached
>>>>>>>>>>> the last /8?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 37.222.0.0/15 - RIPE - 131.070 IPs - 2012.04
>>>>>>>>>>> -> How was he able to obtain a /15 1 month AFTER RIPE reached
>>>>>>>>>>> the last /8?
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> 31.201.0.0/16 - RIPE - 65.534 IPs - 2011.04
>>>>>>>>>>> -> Announced in the ARIN region entirely, not RIPE
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best regards,
>>>>>>>>>>> William Weber
>>>>>>>>>>>
>>>>>>>>>>> --
>>>>>>>>>>> EDIS GmbH
>>>>>>>>>>> NOC
>>>>>>>>>>>
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