And by the way, for those that say it has to be a flat fee because of taxes in the Netherlands or whatever. Currently there's a fee per ASN, so the LIRs pay 50 EUR ASN which isn't a flat fee.
A tiered model is possible and the right thing to do (again, everyone other than RIPE does it)
Only objectors are people like Gert that manage 11872 IPv4 and want to keep paying the same fees as someone that hold 256 IPs
That's not true, last time you were afraid of even putting a tiered model on the ballot while the vast majority of LIRs (which are very small LIRs) wanted to have an option to vote on a tiered model, but you didn't even have the guts to put it to vote.
Hi,
On Sat, May 31, 2025 at 01:36:27PM +0300, Jean Salim wrote:
> We missed you Gert, I was surprised you disappeared as you're always the
> one to mislead the conversation away from charging scheme.
> I would like yo hear your proposal on an alternative charging scheme that
> more fair to small LIRs.
> I myself, as pointed out before, prefer the ARIN model.
"1 LIR, 1 vote, 1 fee for the membership" seems to be the one where most
LIRs can actually *agree* on.
Every charging scheme will be unfair to some - we had categories, and that
was unfair to some, we had flat fees, and those are unfair to some, and
even if we introduce fee-by-/24, it will be unfair to some.
Even if we totally ignore IPv4, there will still be people that say
"someone with a larger yearly budget should pay more", and "non-profit
members should be free!", and maybe they are right. But if we go there,
some people will have to pay more than they did the year before, and
they will find this unfair.
Conclusions left as homework to the reader.
Gert Doering
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