Salut, Martin, On Fri, 19 Jun 2009 16:59:47 +0100, Martin List-Petersen wrote:
Again. Differentiate between RIPE and the RIPE NCC. RIPE is the LIR membership. The RIPE NCC handles the ressources and actions the policies, that have been worked out by the RIPE membership (the LIRs).
Of course, sorry.
I'd say with a contractual relationship, there's actually certainty. Because before that, if you had PI and ASN ressources from a LIR that has gone bust, you'd never know how long you'd keep them after the other ressources are returned due to liquidation.
Now there is at least a clear procedure and you can even choose to have a relationship with the RIPE NCC and not a LIR. It just has a price tag.
That's perfectly fine with me (except that I think exceptions should be made for organizations like SwissIX). I am merely suggesting that there are going to be problems with the fact that these fees are also going to be applied to existing assignments, and that "IP addresses are not property" may not be the opinion a judge chooses to share. As I said before, the RIPE NCC is no legislative power. But I guess there really is no need to debate that, it's more like a "sit back and watch" situation. Kind regards, Tonnerre -- SyGroup GmbH Tonnerre Lombard Solutions Systematiques Tel:+41 61 333 80 33 Güterstrasse 86 Fax:+41 61 383 14 67 4053 Basel Web:www.sygroup.ch tonnerre.lombard@sygroup.ch