Hi there, Since RIPE can no longer provide every member with the resources they need, fairness is gone. Leaving the flat fee model can help mitigate this. With the current proposition I see two issues : 1. The maximum fee used for calculations (10k€) is too low. 2. Fees curve is too flat : Base fee apart, for one member with just one /22 it would cost 768€. For a member holding a /8 or equivalent, it is a cost of 0,53€ per /22. That's a really big discount. I can accept a ten times volume discount, but a 1500 times one? My attempt : The general idea is to say someone in top category (/7) will have 16x price reduction per block as per someone in (/22). In category /8 that would be 15x, /9 14x etc. Then we scale to the 30M€ budget + 10M€ of base fees. That gives, base fee included : *500* none *786* /24 to /23 *818* /23 to /22 *850* /22 to /21 *924* /21 to /20 *1,136* /20 to /19 *1,518* /19 to /18 *2,196* /18 to /17 *3,407* /17 to /16 *5,588* /16 to /15 *9,545* /15 to /14 *16,780* /14 to /13 *30,100* /13 to /12 *54,768* /12 to /11 *100,686* /11 to /10 *186,560* /10 to /9 *347,812* /9 to /8 *651,711* /8 to /7 The fee of one member of the highest category will represent about 1.5% of total income (we have 4 such members, see table in tab #2 of the Model_A spreadsheet). Compared with figures from the chart about other RIRs that make a fee /10 a bit below LACNIC. On Mon, Jan 19, 2026 at 5:29 PM Akayo <ripe@akayo.eu> wrote:
Hi Ben!
Of course I do agree that "whale customers" are not a good idea as well since this would put the independency of the RIPE NCC on risk.
However, even if we would use a way more balanced category based model, we are still miles away from such a risk because I was not speaking about millions or even hundreds of thousands of fees for the largest LIRs. But it simply doesn't make much sense if the largest LIRs pay a few thousand EUR per year while even small LIRs pay a few thousand EUR per year as well.
--Kayo
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