Dear Jochem, Hello everybody, As no more messages on the list, I can imagine holidays are now there :-) If i may summarize my last email : - Why are we using "billing categories" ? It seems there are not useful to understand either the use of RIPE ressources or the quantities of services delivered to members. I have added some more questions regarding your last link :
ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-latest This shows all the delegated resources from the RIPE NCC to its members.
If there is somewhere a FAQ regarding this file, please accept my apologises for these questions, i would read it first, but i didn't find any : - Some dates (5th column) are set to 0 : what does it means ? - A lot of ressources are assigned or allocated before 1993 and thus are not used for computing current TimedScore : why ? - Would it be possible to ask RIPE NCC to add a column with the billing category, so anybody may compute the statistics ? Thanks a lot, Best regards, Bernard Dugas Bernard Dugas wrote:
Dear Jochem,
Jochem de Ruig wrote:
Sorry, i may be unclear, i look for a table like this :
Category ExtraSmall Small Medium Large eXtraLarge N° of AS N° of /19V4 N° of /20V4 N° of /21V4 N° of /22V4 N° of /30V6 N° of /31V6 N° of /32V6 N° of /33V6
I do not have a table like this available. The Charging Scheme is an automated process and has as output mainly a score per registry. This will require quite some manual work from our side. When this is very relevant to discuss the Charging Scheme then this will be possible in due time.
I think this is very relevant to understand the current billing scheme that is quite complicated from my beginner point of view :
What i understand is that there is a RessourceScore and a TimedScore : - RessourceScore is based on an arbitrary value corresponding to each ressource allocated or assigned to a member ; - TimedScore is a value computed from each RessourceScore by taking into account the age of the ressource allocation or assignation.
Then, there is another function that make a classification of the members in 5 classes, that i imagine are carefully chosen by factors i don't know currently.
But i don't forget that the basic goal of RIPE is to manage some scarce resources that are IP adresses and ASNumbers.
So as i am told that this classification of members in 5 categories is important, i would like to know how the ressources are used by these 5 categories.
I can also understand that categories are an artificial concept that is not important at all, and that would be a good explanation why there is currently no table showing use of ressources by categories.
But then i would ask myself why using categories in billing scheme if they are not useful anywhere else ?
May be you can find the answer to your question from the readily information at: ftp://ftp.ripe.net/pub/stats/ripencc/delegated-ripencc-latest This shows all the delegated resources from the RIPE NCC to its members.
Thanks a lot for this link.
This is interesting but miss the relationship side from each ressource to the category.
Best regards,
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