Interesting that RIPE don't use the RIPE data… https://stat.ripe.net/93.93.98.2 The geoloc-frame places it in Norway while the Registry browser (on the same page) places it in US (which is correct)... Yours Jan Marius Evang Media Network Services AS44654 On 28. mai 2014, at 11:02, admin@intl-alliance.com wrote:
I depend on Maxmind using data obtained from a central registry. If all ip tracing websites created their own databases with information they made up, we wouldn't bother with the RIPE database any more because it would become obsolete. We depend on ip tracing websites to gather their information from authority sites, not the garbage they produce on their own. And I'm only interested, as well as my end-users, of seeing ip information that I've registered in the appropriate places. Simply stating that "we're only interested in end-user locations" rather than ip registration data, sits badly in my mind. And it has also caught the attention of the RIPE NCC itself, which just sent me the following email regarding this situation:
Dear Jared,
Thank you for your email.
We value your concern about correct registration details for internet resources.
However the RIPE NCC has no authority on how private companies compile their data and how much they take information from the RIPE database in account. Did you contacted MaxMind directly and informed them about the mismatching information they provide? Because finally if information are incorrect then this is not only damaging companies like yours but also the reputation of the providers of this data.
And I will forward your observation to my colleagues from the stat.ripe.net team as there for Geolocation we are using data from MaxMind. https://stat.ripe.net/193.0.20.0#tabId=geo
Then my colleagues will check if there could be any conflicting information in our own tools.
-- Thank you again for bring up this topic.
Kind regards,
Marco Schmidt RIPE NCC
On 2014-05-28 09:52, Alfredo Sola wrote:
That thought was kind of pointless after they refused to help. I've spent hours on their site manually updating all of their inaccuracies over the past few years. From one month to the next they can screw up entire ranges with their monthly updates. My networks do not run proxies period. I run vpn services and remote desktops, but never proxies. And vpn services cannot be classified the same as open proxies as they are totally different.
I think your issue is more a business model problem than a registry or IP problem.
What you are saying is that you depend on Maxmind providing the location of your VPN servers / remote desktop servers rather than the location of users computers connected to them. Maxmind, on the other hand, is saying that they provide the location of users if they can, or will mark the location as unknown.
So your business model depends on Maxmind agreeing to provide to their customers something which is not what they pay to obtain. And they refuse. I personally don't think they can be blamed for that, but that's something between your company and Maxmind. And nothing in this has to do with RIPE.
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