Hi Alexandra,

What is your message? Do you have any idea how the ‘large IPv4 owners’ voted? I doubt it.

It's a democratic decision — that's how voting works. In fact, this means that both models work, and there was a slight majority for one of them. Those who did not vote have to automatically accept that.

Adoption of IPv6 is even more prevalent on the service side nowadays. None of the ISPs can get rid of any IPv4 space unless they are also offering their services in IPv6. Nevertheless, projects are still starting out as IPv4-only. Do IPv6 first. Stop complaining about the IPv4 shortage. 

-- 
Kind regards

Sebastian Becker



Von: Alexandre <alexandre-ripe-ncc@lotharedon.org>
Datum: Mittwoch, 27. Mai 2026 um 09:17
An: members-discuss@ripe.net <members-discuss@ripe.net>
Betreff: [members-discuss] Re: RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Proposals - result announced.

I'm really enjoying all of this messages from large IPv4 pool owners,
stating as obvious to keep a flat charging scheme. But this vote tells
an other story : having a 51/49% split means none of the proposed model
was attractive enough to make a large member approbation. Stating
otherwise would be very disrespectful toward the voting members.

But please, don't fail to notice that all of this discussions about
charging schemes are because many large service providers and ISP don't
put enough work into their IPv6 adoption. As displayed during a previous
RIPE meeting, small IPv4 operators have an higher IPv6 adoption rate
than bigger ones. So if one doesn't want to fell disrespected again with
new discussions about charging schemes, they know what they should do.

Regards,
Alexandre

Le 26/05/2026 à 13:21, Brian Storey via members-discuss a écrit :
> Precisely.
>
> What is important now is for the result to be accepted and move on.
> Arriving at either of the options in the 2027 Charging Scheme Proposal
> was the culmination of a great deal of effort and refinement of recent
> previous attempts. It became THE Vote. The big one! Could this be the
> one where the category model finally wins? No.
>
> To be asked to vote again on this within the next few years should be
> considered disrespectful to the membership and the vote they hold. I
> strongly suspect that irrespective on which side of the coin you are,
> most don’t want to be asked again any time soon either.
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> *Subject:* [members-discuss] Re: RIPE NCC Charging Scheme Proposals -
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> On 22 May 2026, at 13:20, Stephen Carter (Fujitsu) via members-discuss
> <members-discuss@ripe.net <mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net>> wrote:
>> So, a member pays half of the flat fee and half of the category fee
>
>> – as I could see some members having a large increase in their
>
>> fees if 75% are better off – and that ‘jump’ may not be budgeted for.
>
> No.  The option B was the voting scheme with large jumps and it did not
> pass.
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> The meeting was asked to reach a decision. It decided that in this
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