Agree!
If member fee is same - then resources also must be same.
On 12.04.2024 14:02, ivaylo wrote:
>
>> From IANA documents signed and agreed from RIPE:
>
> -------------------------------------------------------------------------
> 4) Neutrality and impartiality in relation to all interested parties,
> and particularly the LIRs
>
> All organisations that receive service from the new RIR must be treated
> equally. The policies and guidelines proposed and implemented by the RIR
> need to ensure fair distribution of resources, and impartial treatment
> of the members/requestors.
>
> The new RIR should be established as an independent, not-for-profit and
> open membership association.
> --------------------------------------------------------------------------
>
> As some of you mentioned bigger part of the members are "happy" with the
> current charging scheme. Also seems we can not agree for charging scheme
> based on resources the member hold. Then logicaly we have an other option:
>
> Let then RIPE do same with the resources ! Allocate absolutely equal
> number of resources to each of the LIR members ! Because there is
> shortage for IPV4, deallocate them from members who hold more ! For IPV6
> just release new networks for simplification. For 32 bit ASNs give the
> current holders 1 year to free them, and then redistribute again equal
> number to each LIR.
>
> To avoid disruption of the internet work, during the
> deallocation/allocation keep the IRR and ROA object same. And then
> separate we LIRs will make each to each contracts.
>
>
>
> Ivaylo Josifov
> VarnaIX / Varteh LTD
> +359 52 969393
> Varna, Bulgaria
>
>
> On Fri, 12 Apr 2024, Fergal Cunningham wrote:
>
>>
>> Dear Sebastien,
>>
>>
>> The charging scheme is adopted by the General Meeting upon proposal of
>> the
>> Executive Board. The Executive Board proposes a charging scheme and is
>> responsible for the adoption of the budget and the activity plan of the
>> organisation, so it is their responsibility to propose a charging
>> scheme to
>> collect the budget for the execution of this activity plan.
>>
>>
>> For the execution of the activity plan of 2025 the board proposed
>> multiple
>> options for covering the estimated budget. Contrary to other years, this
>> time the current charging scheme cannot cover the necessary expenses. It
>> would be damaging for the organisation to propose a resolution that would
>> result in maintaining the current charging scheme and thus a much smaller
>> income. The board has no obligation to put forward a resolution that may
>> result in maintaining the current charging scheme. It does have an
>> obligation to put forward resolutions for the benefit of the
>> organisation.
>>
>>
>> So in short, the proposal would be completely valid.
>>
>>
>> All the best,
>>
>> Fergal
>>
>>
>> On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 12:09?PM Sebastien Brossier
>> <sebastien@brossier.org>
>> wrote:
>> On 12/04/2024 10:56, Gert Doering wrote:
>> > On Fri, Apr 12, 2024 at 09:59:37AM +0200, Sebastien Brossier
>> wrote:
>> >> Correct, but the question is: is it ok for the option to
>> reject the proposed
>> >> resolution to be missing ?
>> >
>> > This option would take away the necessary resources for the
>> NCC to do
>> > what they presented at the autumn AGM.? So, yes, this would be a
>> very
>> > poor choice.
>> >
>> > The question is not "if" this is the budget, the question is
>> "how can
>> > the costs for this budget be distributed?".? So "no!" can not be
>> a valid
>> > choice for that question.
>>
>> Hi,
>>
>> I agree that a rejection is not desirable and would put the NCC
>> in a
>> difficult situation. All voting options should result in the
>> same budget.
>>
>> I'm not asking if it is desirable, but if it is *legal* to
>> remove the
>> choice to reject a proposal.
>> I think it is better to ask the question now, rather than take
>> the risk
>> of seeing someone challenge the vote result later.
>>
>>
>> Regards,
>> Sebastien Brossier
>>
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