On Mon, Oct 3, 2016, at 00:08, Carlos Friacas wrote:
The legacy space ISN'T managed by the RIRs.
Of course, not managed, "administered" http://www.iana.net/assignments/ipv4-address-space/ipv4-address-space.xhtml#... Or is it still "managed" ? https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/legacy-resources/erx I don't think this changes the situation very much if the legacy ressources cannot be considered property.
If the answer is "YES", then that would be for me a good starting point into accepting the current situation.
I guess an e-mail message, in some parts of the (non-virtual) world might be considered as "good documentation" -- or a contract...?
A contract does not create ownership in itself. As for an e-mail being considered a contract - the outcome may be pretty random. Why exactly wasn't IP space considered as a RTU (right to use) ? It seems that ARIN's position goes in that direction. That would make legacy space quite similar to non-legacy one.
But on the other side, it seems that not all RIRs have such a "friendly" stance towards LRHs (towards LEGACY in general).
Where did you get that idea? pointers...?
https://www.arin.net/resources/agreements/rsa_faq.html#legacy https://www.arin.net/resources/agreements/rsa.pdf http://www.mail-archive.com/nanog@nanog.org/msg87789.html
It's a bit different. "Carlos" is not a unique identifier. Even my four names are not a unique identifier (roughly it is because my surname is really rare...).
Neither is 8.8.8.8 (just an example of legacy IP address).
Sure. Again, i don't think the IP space distributed by IANA falls under intellectual property...
Intangibe, definitely yes.
A dutch court, a portuguese court and a romanian court might decide differently on the same case... which law should apply? The recipient coutry's law and/or IANA's?
Most likely any jurisdiction that could enforce its decision on RIPE NCC. That should normally include at least the Dutch one. Probably a few select others to some degree (or not). Back to where we started, why such a friendly stance towards all holders of "space initally distributed before the RIR system", espcially the non-collaborative ones ? Choice (if yes, why) ? Well-defined legal obligation (doesn't look like this, at least in IANA's own legal system). Fear of litigation ? -- Radu-Adrian FEURDEAN