W dniu 2016-02-11 o 16:52, Jack pisze:
Well there are compagnies in that wild world that :
- are "new" (didn't exists in near 2k)
- have a huge utilization of IP addresses
- do not have enough money to pay 15€/IPv4

Are they just supposed to die ?
You cannot blame the survive instinct :)

Buying a compagny to get its IP are a solution for rich people, I am
pretty sure that google, lvl3 nor akamai will ever run out of IP

I agree with Jack.

Market price per IP is to expensive. We have lot of  small companies in Poland which are serving services in "white area's - called white stains - where there is no business for big ISP to invest ", this is more voluntary services than business.
All they have the same problem - lack of IPv4.

But I think problem is similar in other countries.

Setup additional LIR account is not logical. Why to pay /22 if you don't need this at this moment.

I think it should be "Additional Fee for resources additional resources more than /22 "
It should be based on minimal  /24 allocation and with annual fee that will not exceed annual provider fee for /22.
This fee should be based on quarter of year. With some reasonable request limit by year.

For example annual fee for /24 is 340E
If you request it in May you will pay 225E.
If you lost a client you will return /24 back to ripe.

It will help smaller ISP/LIRs  to serve our services.

We have almost 4500 km of network with /22.
I know companies who do not have any network now but they have /18 /20.

It should be a rule to get legal address space, not buying it from the market.


Best regards
Dariusz Siedlecki
Glenbrook