Not to mention Lebanon, haven’t started providing or anything, doing the p2p to servers in UK and other offices, had lots of from getting the right equipments, shipping, getting the right provider to begin with fast and secure! Not government army tried to help and other law agencies but the fact of third parties using you for personal gains and too much barriers that keeps you go slowly, and barely can find hrhtrusted help , doing new technology that could help the country maybe confronted and hard to reach if not in partnership with government, problem is different geopolitical diversity factor is a major constraints! Not to mention the safest place is in-house but keeps neighbors having to bare noises of fans and stuff. Giving more indépendant and power from the government and Law agencies policies and empowerment to LIR’s would be grearly healpful.vwith more freedom in resources can enhance and benefit both country and organisation! Regards, Mohamed An idea and comm On Wednesday, 18 April 2018, Daniel Suchy <danny@danysek.cz> wrote:
I *don't* support such ideas. RIPE (and IANA on top level) has to be strictly *apolitical* organisation. We're not here to judge goverments within our service region.
There's no rule forcing (global) rechability of LIR-allocated addres space. In general, it's not a good idea to force that now - this may cause problems, which are'nt advertising their allocated address space for some technical purpose.
With regards, Daniel
On 04/17/2018 05:37 PM, Sascha Luck [ml] wrote:
All,
the recent discussion about moving the NCC and the relative political stability of countries in the service region has caused me to think about the RIPE NCC in the current political context. THere appears to be an incipient issue here:
1) Problem statement
the current geopolitical situation in the RIPE service region has, unfortunately, greatly degraded in the recent past. There are territorial conflicts (Ukraine/Russia), there are outright civil wars (Syria, Afghanistan) and, perhaps closest to "home", the cold war is back between "The West" and Russia as well as Iran (both in the RIPE service region). The rhetoric in both the EU and NATO (both of which NL is a member of) is becoming increasingly belligerent and there is an increasing likelihood of this stance leading to unilateral sanctions against those seen as "enemies". Since "internet propaganda", "Russian Trolls", etc are now often taking the blame for every ill in Europe, I should be surprised if those didn't also include internet resources. I would not see it without the realm of the possible, that increasing political/legal pressure would be brought on the RIPE NCC to deny service and perhaps revoke resources allocated to these enemies-du-jour.
2) Possible outcomes
- Sanctioned countries might take their ball and go elsewhere (another RIR?)
- Sanctioned countries might take their resources and set up their own RIR, approved by IANA or, more likely, not.
- They might refuse (or be prohibited from) cooperation with the original IANA/RIR/LIR system.
- In a worst-case scenario this could lead to the same resources used by "opposing" RIRs and a fracturing of the internet.
- In such a case, it is hard to imagine the ITU (as an UN body) *not* taking control of resource management to prevent such a fracture.
3) Mitigations
- The only one I can think of is relocating the NCC to a country - if that exists- which is neutral and does not participate in these block fights (Switzerland?, Sweden?).
As a question to the board: does the RIPE NCC have any contingency plans to mitigate this situation when it occurs?
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