On 28.04.2023 17:40, Kaj Niemi wrote:
FWIW, ARIN does not seem to have a problem with charging larger organizations more, see https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/ <https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/>
Thanks for this link. Also I've noticed that in ARIN, /20 up to and including /18 plus /32 up to and including /28 are referred as SMALL, with a fee of $2000, not $4000+ as proposed in model A.
Does anyone know whether such large orgs have more influence with ARIN? Referring to the mail from the EB a few days ago, EB seems to be of the opinion that RIPE NCC couldn't charge recipients of larger allocations in RIPEland more than 10k because of $factors such as "these larger companies would want a greater say in the organisation’s governance as a result of their increased contribution".
While on that topic, I wonder why the EB recommends option 1 and thinks that the smaller organizations would not want to have a larger say in the organization's [RIPE's] governance as a result of their increased contribution.......
But sure, we can compare service fees. It seems that the imaginary LIR with IPv4 /21 + IPv4 /22 + 1 ASN + IPv6 /32 would in America,where everything is huge, pay only $1000 or 908 euro annually. If you have other resources, you're not getting charged for the price of an ASN.
Kaj ------------------------------------------------------------------------ *From:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Michel Lanners <michel.lanners@lu-cix.lu> *Sent:* Wednesday, April 26, 2023 23:57 *To:* Elvis Daniel Velea <elvis@v4escrow.net> *Cc:* RIPE member discuss list <members-discuss@ripe.net> *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Publication of Draft Charging Scheme Models 2024 Exceptionally replying to someone in particular:
except him and the board of an RIR that needs to spend €40m/year (double than the other RIRs - ARIN is at about $20m, LACNIC - $10m, APNIC - $21m, only the NCC needs $45m) and increase budget with 10-15%/year.
It’s not fair to compare budgets. Compare membership fees. ARIN’s fees are for example higher or much higher, depending on service, while their budget is half. Apples and oranges?
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