FWIW, ARIN does not seem to have a problem with charging larger organizations more, see https://www.arin.net/resources/fees/fee_schedule/ Does anyone know whether such large orgs have more influence with ARIN? Referring to the mail from the EB a few days ago, EB seems to be of the opinion that RIPE NCC couldn't charge recipients of larger allocations in RIPEland more than 10k because of $factors such as "these larger companies would want a greater say in the organisation’s governance as a result of their increased contribution". While on that topic, I wonder why the EB recommends option 1 and thinks that the smaller organizations would not want to have a larger say in the organization's [RIPE's] governance as a result of their increased contribution....... But sure, we can compare service fees. It seems that the imaginary LIR with IPv4 /21 + IPv4 /22 + 1 ASN + IPv6 /32 would in America, where everything is huge, pay only $1000 or 908 euro annually. If you have other resources, you're not getting charged for the price of an ASN. Kaj ________________________________ From: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> on behalf of Michel Lanners <michel.lanners@lu-cix.lu> Sent: Wednesday, April 26, 2023 23:57 To: Elvis Daniel Velea <elvis@v4escrow.net> Cc: RIPE member discuss list <members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Publication of Draft Charging Scheme Models 2024 Exceptionally replying to someone in particular: except him and the board of an RIR that needs to spend €40m/year (double than the other RIRs - ARIN is at about $20m, LACNIC - $10m, APNIC - $21m, only the NCC needs $45m) and increase budget with 10-15%/year. It’s not fair to compare budgets. Compare membership fees. ARIN’s fees are for example higher or much higher, depending on service, while their budget is half. Apples and oranges? Michel LANNERS CIO at LU-CIX Management G.I.E. -- Mail: michel.lanners@lu-cix.lu<mailto:michel.lanners@lu-cix.lu> Phone: (+352) 28 99 29 92-81 LU-CIX Management G.I.E. 202, Z.A.E. Wolser F L-3290 Bettembourg lu-cix.lu<https://www.lu-cix.lu/> luxembourg-internet-days.com<https://luxembourg-internet-days.com/> lunog.lu<https://www.lunog.lu/>