On 28/03/15 22:43, LeaderTelecom Ltd. wrote:
I disagree. At least, some members were satisfied with ASN charge abolishment. And please, find some new arguments before introducing ASN charge again. Garbage
collection is not so important in terms of AS numbers.
Sergey, I support your idea. Doesn't make sense to change anything regards payments for ASN. Billing is more easy for RIPE NCC. And this discussion started from garbage collection of ASN.
+1 I think that if garbage collection is the problem, then we should focus on garbage collection and ask the RIPE NCC what methods it would see viable (including or excluding the ASN charge). We should leave the Charging Scheme be, as it is one of the cleanest I have seen and I remember (although I was not in that meeting in 2012) that everyone appreciated a clean/simple CS. As for the discussion regarding ASN returns, I think we have a lot of noise for nothing.. Firstly, the internet is using ~65K ASNs while the supply is 2MM. We still have 64K*65K before we should really worry about garbage collection. Secondly - since my company offers consulting services for various companies in the region, I have noticed that many customers have returned ASNs to the RIPE NCC after an M&A, so it's not like they keep on holding them without a reason.. Although I would see why 32bit ASNs could, soon, have a value (especially the 'vanity' ones). Thirdly, I have already proposed a method, which does not ask the NCC to chase but just to send a question to its members once a year, asking them if they or their customer want to return the ASN that has not been seen in the global routing table for more than 3 months. Such a script should be simple to make and would not involve any follow-up from the NCC nor any chasing of the members. If the members do respond and return any of the ASNs, then the garbage collection mechanism has fulfilled it's purpose. regards, Elvis -- <http://v4escrow.net> Elvis Daniel Velea Chief Executive Officer Email: elvis@V4Escrow.net <mailto:elvis@v4escrow.net> US Phone: +1 (702) 475 5914 EU Phone: +31 (0) 61458 1914 Recognised IPv4 Broker/Facilitator in: This message is for the designated recipient only and may contain privileged, proprietary, or otherwise private information. If you have received this email in error, please notify the sender immediately and delete the original.Any other use of this email is strictly prohibited.
