I completely disagree with you.
I've personally proposed several linear models. I've proposed various risk
scenarios for the NCC and burden on participants. All proposals are being
ignored. Linear models are simply being removed from discussions by the
administration. Why? The MAJORITY of those participating in this
discussion here have spoken about linear models! This gives me reason to
suspect a certain vested interest on the part of the group and those who
set its goals.
You claim IPv4 is closed. Then explain to us why the market price of one
IP address is already reaching $50? Why don't we see free resources, only
rising prices?
The schemes proposed by the working group not only create inequality among
NCC participants; they cement a system in which the majority will pay for
the very profitable business of a small number of NCC participants. This
group of participants has historically acquired vast amounts of address
space, in part by establishing an inadequate distribution model. Although
warnings about the risks of such a "helicopter distribution" of resources
have been voiced repeatedly, it seems as if the group is strictly
advocating for their interests. This is unacceptable!
The refusal to discuss linear models has led to the failure of votes on
new models time after time. This, as I understand it, also benefits this
group of NCC members.
I believe the working group should be disbanded. Its work is pointless;
we've already voted against such payment options twice. A new group should
be created, and discussion of linear models should be mandatory.
Ultimately, it's not the administration that decides what the payment
model should be. It should be the decision of NCC members, and it should
be a fair choice with all options, including linear models.
Otherwise, all these "elections" will once again degenerate into a farce!
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Dmitry Serbulov
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> On 10/03/2026 13:02:00, thiele@holomua.de wrote:
>>RIPE NCC set conditions for the working group in advance that were
>> intended to prevent any discussion of a pricing model based linearly on
>> the amount of RIPE resources (IPs, etc.) used. As a result, only the
>> price limits of models and various ancillary costs can now be discussed.
>
> "you are welcome to argue the niceties of a scheme that
> has been repeatedly dismissed"
>
>>The models currently presented disadvantage all small and medium-sized
>> users and favor the large early adopters.
>
> This is why we vote for the fixed fee each time, if the
> offered variable rates suited the higher number of smaller
> members then they would have been accepted previously.
>
>>It is regrettable that the entire discussion on the pricing model could
>> not/was not allowed to be conducted in an open-ended manner, taking into
>> account another possible model with a linear resource-dependent cost
>> approach.
>
> I don’t think linear will ever be offered and really what
> is the point.
>
> V4 is done, trying to rinse those with laods may have a
> feel good factor but not for very long. Assuming V6 does
> get there, and really the only reason it hasn’t is us the industry we
> can’t blame anyone else, then we will be back
> to a small range of allocaiton sizes to try and bodge
> into a category model, so really back to flat rate.
>
> brandon
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