Hi, [...] Don't believe or assume, just ask the people that bring something forward, instead of publically claiming some underlying reason that is not there.
2007-01 and the various followup discussions have never been about money (either way). Ok, maybe I'm just thinking too far and/or assuming some things that are only in my head.
I also think we should forget about garbage collection in ASN16 because it will never happen. If companies/LIRs ever decide to hand ASN16 back, it's only because they want to, nobody will be able to 'force' them, either by adding a fee to the ASN or by chasing them when the ASN is not in use. Well, I know for sure that the at least one AS holder (me) returned his AS "from the early days of RIPE" because he couldn't be bothered to pay 50 EUR/year "just to have it" when it wasn't used any longer (of course I could have *afforded* it, but the nuisance factor was way too high).
So it worked. Well, as I said, I have been working with some customers on M&As or
Hi, On 29/03/15 20:21, Gert Doering wrote: transfers where they have taken over networks/IP blocks and did not need the ASNs. Some of those ASNs have been returned. So, it does work, and not only if a 50E/year fee is added to each ASN. Some still do the right thing while others will see the value in a finite number.
Don't look at everything purely from the angle of "how can people make the most money out of numbers". Nowadays, with the experience of IPv4, everyone will look at numbers at a method to making money, especially if these numbers finite and depleted. I doubt holders of ASNs will return them to the NCC if they could make a buck.
Gert Doering -- NetMaster cheers, Elvis
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