Our task is to prevent the collapse of cooperation. However, the IPv4
situation is creating real tension in the community. The introduction of
fees for scarce resources is a step towards solving the problem. And
ignoring the situation is, of course, beneficial to speculators, but it
will have a disastrous result.

If you didn't understand, then redistributing IPv4 addresses, if
necessary, is also not so difficult, however, as well as canceling them.
Governments work stupid. The experience of forced transition is well
known.

P.S.
Daniel, personaly for you and for 'like' you.

Your threats are as stupid as the EU sanctions, any attempt to put
pressure on the NCC participants will eventually lead to the collapse of
the organization and the termination of RIPE's function as an free network
association. As a result, it will not be the INTERNET, but the EURONET,
the USANET, RUSNET and etc.

When Euro fascism is being restored now. How are EUs doing with the
production of shells and missiles? Have the armies been assembled yet? Do
EUs like WWAR 3? Do EUs already have "nuclear bunkers"?
Or, may be, are EUs hoping that the Russians soldiers will come to the
streets of Berlin and Paris again to save Europe once again from dictators
like Napoleon and Hitler? Or, that "jungles" will continue sell to "fine
garden" resources the for a song? Unfortunately, those days are over. "By
yourself, by yourself, by yourself... ".

Learn to look for friends, not enemies. The habit of living at the expense
of others is vicious.

Serbulov Dmitry

Sure, in your personal case, he should apologize for your country

brazenly attacking a country that you yourself previously recognized as

sovereign.

And yes, a lot of Russians make money by speculating with IPv4. That's

the harsh reality. We know about this - but we are not calling for any

retroactivity in the rules. Maybe it's weakness, maybe it's just decency.

But yes, it would work. Then a not entirely small part of the address

space would be freed up. But "few" Russians will be sad.

It's about working with information. There's a lot of it in the

database. Too much. And you're betting on that.

If you really had any sense, you people from Russia wouldn't really be

digging into today's system. ;-) Many things can turn against you.

- Daniel

On 5/31/25 11:23 PM, sdy@a-n-t.ru wrote:

Some mistakes (and crimes) not only have no statute of limitations, but

can be successfully corrected.

Serbulov Dmitry

Thanks for public confirmation that *YOUR* participation in this

discussion about the charging scheme change is just only about you

want

to grab something for yourself. Just personal profit.

I understand your fluustration. As a German entity you're paying to

entity with Russian roots to earn your IPv4. From my point of view to

speculators who found weaknesses in the distribution of the last /8 in

IPv4 past years. But those rules were created by the community itself.

The responsibility has different aspects. And the aspect of which

supplier you choose is one of them. Especially nowadays. You always

have

a choice.  But the solution isn't to vent your personal anger on

someone

who is not the speculator. Gert isn't the cause of *your* problems.

- Daniel

On 5/31/25 9:22 PM, D. Walde - Walde IT-Systemhaus wrote:

Gerd, I'd suggest you just be social and give me a /24 or /22 via

ripe

transfer for €50 into your coffee account plus 19% German VAT.

If you don't have a problem with social responsibility among members.

Since I don't have a single IPv4, and you apparently have enough.

Best regards / Mit freundlichen Grüßen

Walde IT-Systemhaus - CEO Dirk Walde - IT-Specialist

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