28 Nov
2019
28 Nov
'19
12:43 a.m.
Hi, I don't understand RIPE NCC's actions as "support", instead i see it as simple "acknowledgement". And in case you haven't noticed, "They" are also RIPE NCC members, some even several times... :-) Cheers, Carlos On Wed, 27 Nov 2019, Patrick Velder wrote: > Hi, > > I see no reasons why there should be "RIPE certified brokers" or similar. > They are making profit with "selling" public resources. That's a business > which should not be supported by RIPE. > > Best regards > > On 27.11.19 14:45, Maxemilian Hilbrand wrote: >> Me too. >> >> I got some similar emails within the last few weeks, and I have no idea if >> this is fraud or not. >> >> To avoid fraud, it might be a good idea to have an official auction of IP >> addresses on the RIPE website as trusted source. >> >> Max >> >> >> Maxemilian Hilbrand (Software & Systeme) >> >> CH: +41 71 511 722 0 >> AT (mobile): +43 660 703 92 54 >> maxemilian.hilbrand@isicore.com >> >> isicore AG ? Unterlettenstrasse 14 ? CH-9443 Widnau >> Gerichtsstandort CH-9450 Altstätten, UID CHE-110.354.078 >> Verwaltungsratspräsident: Maxemilian Hilbrand >> >> www.isicore.com I info@isicore.com >> >> -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> Im Auftrag von >> Netmaster >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. November 2019 14:03 >> An: members-discuss@ripe.net >> Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] Fwd: Re: RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers >> >> Hi all, >> >> we also received the same mail today. >> >> Regards >> Stefan >> >> >> >> >> -- >> >> Zentrale >> T +49 731 92013 - 0 >> F +49 731 92013 - 290 >> E info@scanplus.de >> >> scanplus GmbH, sp systemhaus GmbH, >> Lise-Meitner-Str. 5-7, 89081 Ulm >> Geschäftsführung: Jürgen Hörmann, Andreas Werther >> Datenschutzbeauftragter: Thomas Dietrich scanplus GmbH, sp systemhaus GmbH >> sind zertifiziert nach DIN EN ISO 9001:2015, ISO/IEC 27001:2013, Data >> Center Category TIER 3, scanplus GmbH Amtsgericht Ulm HRB >> 3220,www.scanplus.de -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- >> Von: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> Im Auftrag von >> ds@schallert.com >> Gesendet: Mittwoch, 27. November 2019 12:55 >> An: members-discuss@ripe.net >> Betreff: [members-discuss] Fwd: Re: RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers >> >> Received this one below today. I'm pretty certain that they're also pulling >> contact data from https://www.ripe.net/membership/indices/data/cc.xxxx.html >> >> Regards >> >> >> >> ### BEGIN ### >> >> -------- Forwarded Message ------- >> From: "Schurr Networks" <contact@jerseypride.org> >> To: xxxx >> Date: 27. November 2019 11:13 >> Subject: Acquire IPv4 >> >> Greetings, >> >> >> Hope this email finds you well. >> >> We will gladly assist if you are interested to Buy / Sell / Lease IPv4 >> addresses. >> >> Please feel free to contact me if you have any questions. >> >> >> -- >> >> Kind regards, >> >> Alexandra Schurr >> >> >> You received this email because you subscribed at RIPE Database Webinar >> >> Unsubscribe >> >> >> ### END ### >> >> >> >> -------- Weitergeleitete Nachricht ------- >> Von: "Alexander Zubkov" <green@msu.ru> >> An: "Carlos Friaças" <cfriacas@fccn.pt>, members-discuss@ripe.net >> CC: exec-board@ripe.net >> Gesendet: 27. November 2019 00:37 >> Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] RIPE DB T&C violation by brokers 26.11.2019, >> 20:16, "Carlos Friaças via members-discuss" <members-discuss@ripe.net>: >> >>> On Tue, 26 Nov 2019, Sander Steffann wrote: >>> >>>> Hi, >>> The page should reflect this: *these* are the brokers that have signed >>> a contract with the NCC, and whoever is not on this page is inherently >>> less trustworthy. Or at least, not backed by a NCC contract. >>>> +1 >>>> >>>> Currently the list of brokers is of value to the brokers because it >>>> gives them credibility. Let's turn that around and make sure the list >>>> is of value to the community instead, with very strict rules and >>>> penalties for breaking the rules. >> There are rules already. See "Recognised IPv4 Transfer Broker Agreement" >> link to it is available on the brokers list page: >> https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/brokers >> https://www.ripe.net/manage-ips-and-asns/resource-transfers-and-mergers/brokers/RecognisedIPv4Broker >> greement.doc >> But the Supplity is still there, despite: >> 2. The Broker shall adhere to the relevant RIPE Policies and RIPE NCC >> procedural documents ... >> 4. The Broker does not represent the RIPE NCC and shall not imply or create >> the impression to third parties that they represent the RIPE NCC. >> 6. This agreement shall be terminated: >> * By the RIPE NCC with immediate effect if the Broker violates any of their >> obligations as outlined in this agreement ... >> >> And it is known for sure, that Supplity impersonates RIPE NCC on its >> Facebook page (still), they were lying in their spam about getting e-mail >> on RIPE NCC's training courses. They are obviously using RIPE DB to collect >> e-mails to send their spam messages. >> >> PS. I reported their page to Facebook several days ago, but looks like they >> are not going to do anything with it or may be waiting for zillions of >> reports. So who can - please make more reports about their page: (...) -> >> Find Support or Report Page -> Scams and Fake Pages -> Pretending to be >> Another Business (or another report reason you find suitable). May be it >> will help. >> >>> Hi, >>> >>> Are there any strict rules *today*? >>> >>> Are there any penalties for breaking the rules (if there are any) *today*? >>> >>> Cheers, >>> Carlos >>> >>>> Cheers, >>>> Sander >>> _______________________________________________ >>> members-discuss mailing list >>> members-discuss@ripe.net >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >>> Unsubscribe: >>> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/green@msu.ru >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss@ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/ds@schallert.com >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss@ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/netmaster%40scanplus.de >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss@ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/max%40isicore.com >> >> >> _______________________________________________ >> members-discuss mailing list >> members-discuss@ripe.net >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss >> Unsubscribe: >> https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/lists%40velder.li > > _______________________________________________ > members-discuss mailing list > members-discuss@ripe.net > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss > Unsubscribe: > https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/lir%40fccn.pt >