On 23 okt 2013, at 10:26, Daniel Stolpe <stolpe@resilans.se> wrote:
On Tue, 22 Oct 2013, Yiorgos Adamopoulos wrote:
???? 22/10/2013 8:39 ??, ?/? J?nis Jaunoš?ns ??????:
I like atlas and labs :(
Atlas and labs are things that I expect from RIPE NCC because of our membership.
How long have you been a member? Maybe new members are used to this playground business from the start and the older members are more sceptic.
This is more of a principal question than a financial one. With all new members there is probably room in the budget for a lot of not really important things at the same time as the membership fees go down.
But in principle, the Réseaux IP Européens should be about European IP resources.
While I have some healthy skepticism against some RIPE NCC projects, and some of the ways they came to be, I think it's also fair to point out that the activities of the RIPE NCC is presented in the RIPE NCC activity plan, and that they as of the last one actually does a better job of breaking up costs in it. If you, me or anyone else have concerns or opinions on it, the right thing is to post comments on it when it is presented to members every year. Unfortunately the posting if normally comes with a very quiet mailing list. What we should all be doing during the year though is to compare activities to it and provide feedback on how well (or not) we think it's executed. That is partly why the NCC Services WG was created once upon a time, and we have (but rarely) had feedback in there on the performance of the activities of the NCC. This mailinglist is of course also a good channel, but I think we need to accept that the NCC does what is in the activity plan approved by it's members.... Best regards, - kurtis - --- Kurt Erik Lindqvist, CEO kurtis@netnod.se, Direct: +46-8-562 860 11, Switch: +46-8-562 860 00 Franzéngatan 5 | SE-112 51 Stockholm | Sweden