These dicussions are taking the same route pretty often. At first there is some small discussion and in the end there are quite a few people requesting to get back unused IPv4 space and give it new/needing members. I think, if the content providers would shut down IPv4 traffic, the transition would happen rather quickly. Unfortunatly this, or the draining of v4 traffic on IXes (leaving v4 traffic to the transit) would cost money and/or cost customers for the content. Npt gonna happen... On the other hand there has to be some kind of forcing the transition. As long as the normal/private customer has no drawback, nothing is gonna change. Management has to only add a few bucks to the budget for buying v4 space if needed. Matthias -----Ursprüngliche Nachricht----- Von: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> Im Auftrag von Sebastian Wiesinger Gesendet: Freitag, 29. November 2019 14:08 An: members-discuss@ripe.net Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] BLACK FRIDAY IPv4 transfer * Marcus Pamelia <marcus.pamelia@trioptima.com> [2019-11-29 13:29]:
In my opinion, the IP ranges that are on IP transfers should be taken back by RIPE and given to LIRs in need.
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We had this discussion many years ago. LIRs were "transferring" IP ranges and the RIPE NCC had no way of knowing who was actually using them. The "official" way to do it was implemented so that the database was accurate. If people want to pay money for the transfer that is their decision. They will do it anyway. I see no benefit in doing the same discussion all over again just to have IPv4 space run out again a few weeks later. Anyway, this would be something for the address policy WG. Regards Sebastian _______________________________________________ members-discuss mailing list members-discuss@ripe.net https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/listinfo/members-discuss Unsubscribe: https://lists.ripe.net/mailman/options/members-discuss/brumm%40tkrz.de