I’m also Agree with Morton. LIR accounts are LIR accounts and they are separate entities! Freundliche Grüsse Alex Faes System Engineer Helpdesk +41 41 747 50 51 - alex.faes@redIT.ch ________________________________ [cid:image001.png@01D1E3F1.B4705820] redIT Services AG - Chollerstrasse 32 - CH-6300 Zug - Map<http://maps.google.ch/maps?f=q&hl=de&q=Chollerstrasse%2032+Zug%20(redIT%20Services%20AG)> T +41 41 747 50 50 - info@redIT.ch - www.redIT.ch<http://www.redIT.ch> ________________________________ Ein Unternehmen der beelk group[cid:image002.jpg@01D1E3F1.B4705820]<http://www.beelk.com> Von: members-discuss [mailto:members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net] Im Auftrag von Morten Westerberg Gesendet: Donnerstag, 21. Juli 2016 18:27 An: Sergiu IANCIUC <sergiu.ianciuc@itns.md>; Ping IP <pingip.network@gmail.com> Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] Sign-up fee for additional LIR account I disagree, LIR accounts are LIR accounts and they are separate entities, if you want multiple LIR accounts to hoard IPv4's, it's only fair that you pay per /22 you aquire this way. Sincerely, Morten Westerberg ------------------------------------------------ Secure Data Center Aps Naverland 2 2600 Glostrup Denmark T: +45 70 215 101<tel:+45%2070%20215%20101> E: mw@securedatacenter.dk<mailto:mw@securedatacenter.dk> W: http://www.securedatacenter.dk ------------------------------------------------ -------- Original message -------- From: Sergiu IANCIUC <sergiu.ianciuc@itns.md<mailto:sergiu.ianciuc@itns.md>> Date: 7/21/16 12:14 (GMT-05:00) To: Ping IP <pingip.network@gmail.com<mailto:pingip.network@gmail.com>> Cc: members-discuss@ripe.net<mailto:members-discuss@ripe.net> Subject: Re: [members-discuss] Sign-up fee for additional LIR account salut Ping, agree with you, the additional LIR account have to be 50% from the first sign-up Best Regards, - Sergiu IANCIUC SC ITNS.NET SRL MD-2068, Moldova or. Chisinau, str. Miron Costin 3/1 tel.: +373 22 877 877 fax : +373 22 44 11 73 mobile: +373 690 22 111 url: http://www.itns.md Save a tree... Don't print this email unless you have to... Thursday, July 21, 2016, 7:08:02 PM, you wrote: Hello, A recent change has been made in the Billing and Fee Schedule 2016 , regarding the following sentence: "Members are charged a one-time sign-up fee of EUR 2,000 (two thousand euro) for each new LIR account." I'd like to discuss why an existing LIR member has to pay the sign-up fee again? As a new small LIR I'm paying a high price for a /22 IPv4. I think it's disproportionately to charge the sign-up fee again from an existing LIR member who is requesting an additional LIR account. I'd like to suggest to remove the one-time sign-up fee of EUR 2,000 for each additional LIR account. Or at least lower the sign-up fee to an acceptable rate. I'm not talking about the sign-up fee for a new LIR member, but about the sign-up fee for an additional LIR account. Thanks for discussing this subject. Best regards, Abdelouahed Haitoute Ping IP network