This is the point I about made a thousand emails ago. As I understand it there is no requirement for a PI user to be a member of RIPE now or under the new proposals although membership now and in the future is desireable. BUT there was a contradiction. Under the old rules if an LIR sponsored a PI user no one paid anything (but some LIRs charged the user). However if the user became a small LIR they paid a membership. RIPE (and the LIR members who went to conference and bothered to read all these proposals earlier - 2 years in the discussion) decided that the best approach was to encourage everyone to come under the RIPE banner and charge for PI assignments or the alternative of a xxs or xs membership. Hearing all the debates this was the best option and avoids users being help to ransom as the IPV4 space dries up. My company became a small LIR 3 years ago as an alternative to a BT sponsored PI. It seems a lot of people want to reinvent the wheel when all this has been gone thru in the rigorous RIPE process - if you didn't join in then don’t complain now. -----Original Message----- From: members-discuss-admin@ripe.net [mailto:members-discuss-admin@ripe.net] On Behalf Of Laurent Santoul Sent: 08 August 2011 14:30 To: members-discuss@ripe.net Subject: Re: Re: [members-discuss] New Charging Scheme Hi Rob, that was my initial understanding of the document. As far as I understood, the new rules are meant not to have any sponsoring LIR any more, but to have all the users of any resource directly refer to the RIPE. I don't understand the purpose of this policy, but that's it. If I am wrong, I would like to receive a clarification from the RIPE. Il 02/08/2011 12.05, Rob Evans ha scritto:
Paolo, Patrick,
I may be missing something here from nothing more than a quick scan of the document, but where does it say that all PI users must be members of the RIPE NCC?
It mentions Direct Assignment Users, but aren't those are the chaps that already have a direct contract with the NCC under 2007-01? What prohibits the current setup of a "sponsoring LIR?"
Best, Rob
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