On Mon, Apr 27, 2020 at 12:50:30PM +0200, Cynthia Revstrm wrote:
AFAIK there are no WG chairs of members-discuss and members-discuss is a mailing list that the RIPE NCC hosts to let RIPE NCC members discuss RIPE NCC membership related topics, so I think they certainly have business enforcing people to be professional on this mailing list.
see my reply to Geert above, I didn't get into *this* list as it is indeed managed by the NCC.
I would also like to add that Elad has multiple times on different mailing lists ignored the WG chairs.
Then the WG chairs already have the power to moderate list subscribers and have (rarely) done so in the past.
Also this is happening across a variety of RIPE/RIPE NCC mailing lists that are all hosted by the RIPE NCC and as such I think it is their business to keep them to a professional standard.
Maybe the wg lists should then be hosted elsewhere. It's not generally considered acceptable for a hoster to moderate mailing lists it hosts for a "customer".
There should not be a long list of people, but when someone is behaving unprofessionally, calling people "coconut", being defamatory towards the RIPE NCC, ignoring WG chairs, I do think that they have gone too far and everything has a limit. Like we wouldn't allow someone to send sales emails to the mailing list as an example, aka limits on what is allowed.
Either case is for the WG chairs do decide, *not* the NCC which is only the hoster for those lists. members-discuss is of course different as it is "owned" by the NCC. rgds, Sascha Luck