I vote for keeping the list, and if there was a way to verify reliable brokers easily, that would be a bonus. I am not in favor of RIPE acting as a broker at this time. tim On Thu, Dec 19, 2019 at 9:44 AM Heng Lu <h.lu@outsideheaven.com> wrote:
Hi
I am not very comfortable with idea have ripe become some sort of regulatory for brokerage market...
Maxemilian Hilbrand <maxemilian.hilbrand@isicore.com>于2019年12月19日 周四22:39写道：
I would also vote for option B
As I completely understand that costs were associated with LIR accounts, a fee for transferring IP address spaces is justified. Assuming, the most of us did not “purchase” IP addresses before (we run out of IPv4), a source of trusted traders would be essential to make a transaction. Even better would be to get the addresses directly from the LIR.
Furthermore, RIPE might suggest a price per IP address or limit the price. This would avoid excessive trading and money-making with initially “free” addresses.
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*Von:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> *Im Auftrag von *Lilia Carvalho via members-discuss *Gesendet:* Donnerstag, 19. Dezember 2019 15:18 *An:* Schnabeltier <ripe-member-discuss@cidr.eu>; members-discuss@ripe.net *Betreff:* Re: [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List
I would vote for option B …
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*From:* members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> *On Behalf Of *Schnabeltier *Sent:* 19 de dezembro de 2019 10:38 *To:* members-discuss@ripe.net *Subject:* Re: [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List
Dear colleagues,
I think we have three options. I would vote for option B:
A) Keeping the list.
B) We would consider it as important to have a list of reliable brokers. The RIPE NCC would only publish information of brokers which are verified. If the majority would vote for this option, we have to find a solution how to verify the integrity of brokers.
C) We do not consider a list of reliable brokers as important. While RIPE NCC cannot or does not want to validate the integrity of brokers at this moment, the list should be removed.
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*From:* Christian Kaufmann <exec-board@ripe.net <http:///email/new/1/exec-board%40ripe.net>> *Sent:* Thursday, 19. Dec 2019 – 10:17 CET +0100 *To:* members-discuss@ripe.net <http:///email/new/1/members-discuss%40ripe.net>
*Subject:* [members-discuss] Feedback Requested: RIPE NCC Broker List
Dear RIPE NCC members,
The Executive Board has been following this discussion and we can see
general agreement for a change in the way brokers are listed on the RIPE
NCC's website.
The question is whether the RIPE NCC should remove the list entirely, or
otherwise take steps to improve its approach. There are pros and cons
with both options.
Removing the list is straightforward and would spare the RIPE NCC a few
headaches. However, it is worth considering whether the current model
provides some incentive for brokers to play by the rules and what might
happen if this incentive is gone.
Conversely, it's clear that some brokers are still spamming RIPE
Database contacts. Is this the only problem we are seeking to eliminate
here, or are there others? Could an updated set of terms or a stricter
approach by the RIPE NCC help to mitigate this?
Before the board makes its decision, we would like to hear your thoughts
on this list.
Kind regards,
Christian Kaufmann
RIPE NCC Executive Board Chairman
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