Hi, does it mean, that everything decided before, should be correct and legitim? Either science is not so. They thought the world was flat and so on… So you can not take everything as non changeable facts.. And here there many things, that they are from stone age. And i am free not to accept the applicable and proposed charging schemes. I find that it is not fair. If RIPE is a organisation, which affects our freedom of our internet usage, than they should handle fair Many people dont and can not contribute. Because of many aspecsts, like language barriers of them etc. The desicions will be done often from very small part of the community, often as i see in the last years, for their own interests (i realize this is a generalization, but generally).. -- Mit freundlichen Grüßen / Best Regards Murat TERZIOGLU PREBITS Bochumer Str. 20 44866 Bochum Deutschland Telefon: 0234/58825994 Telefax: 0234/58825995 <http://www.prebits.de/> www.prebits.de <mailto:info@prebits.de> info@prebits.de USt-ID: DE315418902 Von: members-discuss <members-discuss-bounces@ripe.net> Im Auftrag von Michel Lanners Gesendet: Dienstag, 16. April 2024 13:22 An: members-discuss@ripe.net Betreff: Re: [members-discuss] [ncc-announce] [GM] Draft RIPE NCC Charging Scheme 2025 Proposals On 16 Apr 2024, at 13:04, Firma KOMPEX <gabi@kompex.pl <mailto:gabi@kompex.pl> > wrote: Of course the people at RIPE made mistakes. May I remind you that address policy is decided in the working group of the same name, by the RIPE Community and not the RIPE NCC? RIPE Community is all of us, you included. RIPE NCC implements the policies the Community decides. In the old days they issued /8, /12, /14, /16, /18, /20 without any justification and demand for IP addresses. If you refer to the days before RIPE policies, then looking back from today, yes some assignments were quite generous, because it wasn’t envisioned that the Internet would become what it is today. But as long as I can remember (and I’m not the youngest anymore!), policies were always there, and no, getting IP addresses was _not_ free beer for all. Michel LANNERS CIO at LU-CIX Management G.I.E. -- <https://www.luxchat.lu/> Mail: michel.lanners@lu-cix.lu <mailto:michel.lanners@lu-cix.lu> Luxchat: @3eb2pdflrq57:01.lu-cix.luxchat.lu Phone: (+352) 28 99 29 92-81 LU-CIX Management G.I.E. 202, Z.A.E. Wolser F L-3290 Bettembourg lu-cix.lu <https://www.lu-cix.lu/> luxchat.lu <https://www.luxchat.lu/> luxembourg-internet-days.com <https://luxembourg-internet-days.com/> lunog.lu <https://www.lunog.lu/>